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re: walking dead 3-11 (no spoilers about finale)

Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:26 am to
Posted by Dangling Angler
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:26 am to
Daryll and glen found the blindfold on the ground. That's what one of them picked up. I'm assuming Shane removed the handcuffs to make it seen like he slipped them, and tied him up in another fashion. I don't really remember how he was tied up, but I'm pretty sure it was the black blindfold that they found.
Posted by glock22josh
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 3:10 am to
2 things I noticed:
1st the Winnebago has Dale's name on it and I'm assuming his late wife's, couldn't read it when Glen was working on it. It's too late but I still think that he should have upgraded to a newer model.

2nd Rick has stopped wearing his Sheriff's uniform. I think that has been a result of him realizing that he isn't the law anymore and that he must do what he must to survive. I think it has signaled a change in him.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 5:47 am to
Regarding the discussion above about Carl pointing the gun at Rick or Shane:

I think it was really just a sort of cheap decision by the show to create a litle false tension/anxiety by making it look like he was going to shoot Rick but he really just took the most dangerous choice to save Rick from zombie Shane.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 7:00 am to
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the handcuffs were still in the barn. They were bloody and still fastened.


Randall and Shane
Posted by the smoke monster
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:27 am to
got caught up and watched this last night. wow, great episode.

i hate to see Shane go out, but it was inevitable.

and the whole thing is LORI'S fault!
her little crying act is what finally sent Shane over the edge IMO

next week: Zombie horde
Posted by TDTGodfather
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:31 am to
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In fairness, the live image of a zombie's brain scan shown at the CDC seemed to show the virus active in the brain stem but sending impulses to select parts of the brain. Therefore, the zombie would probably be taken out by the general severe damage to brain tissue because the signals originating from the stem wouldn't be acted upon for whatever function.

yeah that's kinda what i assume. i wasn't nitpicking just joshing with those that do.

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Regarding the discussion above about Carl pointing the gun at Rick or Shane:

I think it was really just a sort of cheap decision by the show to create a litle false tension/anxiety by making it look like he was going to shoot Rick but he really just took the most dangerous choice to save Rick from zombie Shane.

exactly. i think it's a little bit of misdirection. i know the show has been spoiled and the comic fans sort of know what happens, but zombie shane is a big reveal so i think they wanted to give you a WTF moment.

i know the audience could've been clued in at this point with randall coming back and the images flashed when shane is dying/dead, but when it happens you could've been thinking that shane was just having some effed up visions before he died.

or we can just chalk it up to added fake drama.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:46 am to
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A couple AR-15's and that approaching zombie horde would be toast.
i agree. They should just plant an AR-15 tree and an ammo tree. Problem solved.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:51 am to
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A couple AR-15's and that approaching zombie horde would be toast.


i agree. They should just plant an AR-15 tree and an ammo tree. Problem solved.


Agreed. That's where the military went wrong. They had plenty of guns, they were just operating too far from their ammo trees. Those things just don't grow overnight. On Hershel's farm they should have no difficulty growing them, however.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 9:14 am to
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LSUSilverfox


Those aren't handcuffs. Looks like a rope.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 9:18 am to
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Those aren't handcuffs. Looks like a rope.
he was handcuffed while in the barn. I think Shane went in there with the intention to kill him. When he saw that he was trying to escape he cooked up the plan of the staged escape and the murder plot on Rick. For a couple of reasons.

The kid trying to escape just showed to him that Rick made the wrong decision, again. He thought he would make a much better leader. Carl coming to him showed him that Carl trusted him more than his own dad, Lori coming to him and apologized, to him, validated all of his actions. He perceived that as invitation to take what he wanted.
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4340 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 11:40 am to
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In this thread alone he mentions:

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Now Shane is gonna lose his f*cking mind again and try and kill Rick.

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Shane is trying to get Rick to him self.. and have another "Otis moment"

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The guy at the CDC told Rick that they can come back alive as zombies even if they have never been bitten.

The "virus" is now inside us all.. and regardless how you die (of natural causes) you will become a zombie.

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Shanes comes back as a walker?

Carl finally mans up?

All of those were posted before they happened onscreen.


Great catch. And here I thought this guy was a genius to predict things so accurately before they happened on screen.
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4340 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 11:56 am to
Anybody find it funny that at the beginning of the episode, we have Shane checking the fences to make sure they are intact, when we know from the first season when Rick and Glenn stole that truck in Atlanta that zombies can easily get over fences much taller than the ones around the farm? I still remember that zombie easily get over that huge chain link fence and come chasing after Rick and Glenn as they got into the truck.
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
Member since Sep 2004
2151 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:15 pm to
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One thing I hadn't considered was how Andrea will take the news of Shane getting put down.


I felt the writers were pulling Andrea away from Shane over the last couple of episodes. Andrea has somehow been regaining a touch of humanity as of late.

I will say that with Shane now gone, they will need a new antagonist to fill the void. And not the zombies
jmo
This post was edited on 3/13/12 at 12:20 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

I think it was really just a sort of cheap decision by the show to create a litle false tension/anxiety by making it look like he was going to shoot Rick but he really just took the most dangerous choice to save Rick from zombie Shane.



Tend to agree. Honestly, I like the show overall but writing/producing leaves a lot to be desired much of the time.

Examples:
Dale's stomach just being ripped open by the zombie that killed him? Really? Are the zombies attaining super strength or something? A bite on his neck would have been a lot more believable.

The who scene with Carl stealing Darryl's pistol and then confronting the zombie stuck in the mud was just dumb as shite. I saw no added value in creating a guilt trip for the kid by having the same zombie kill Dale. Also, Rick gives Darryl's pistol to irresponsible Carl without even telling Darryl? Really? Dumb.

And the scene with Lori flipping the car due to a zombie walking in the road. Again, just a dumb awkward scene that seemed unnecessary. If they were invested in creating an accident, maybe have a wreck with another car coming from the opposite direction in a curve with both cars trying to avoid a pack of zombies. Lori had already looked bad without making her look like a complete dumbass.

Really, I could go on and on with a long list of uncomfortable/awkward scenes which sole purpose seemed to fabricate poorly contrived drama. But yes, I will be watching the finale regardless.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156604 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:33 pm to
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He had them on in the woods when Shane was pushing him around

True. That's either a mistake by the show (because they were definitely still in the barn when Rick said that he slipped them and escaped), or Shane had an extra pair and we just didn't see gim take them off.

ETA: Or maybe he just had his hands tied instead of cuffed.
This post was edited on 3/13/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:45 pm to
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I felt the writers were pulling Andrea away from Shane over the last couple of episodes. Andrea has somehow been regaining a touch of humanity as of late.

I will say that with Shane now gone, they will need a new antagonist to fill the void. And not the zombies
jmo


Agree about Andrea and it showed in her contrary conversations with Shane. However, I think Andrea will likely pick up where Shane left off by suggesting more hardcore answers to tough decisions. But there would seem to be a near endless opportunity for antagonists in an apocalyptic world.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:56 pm to
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Also, Rick gives Darryl's pistol to irresponsible Carl without even telling Darryl? Really? Dumb.

Yeah that was kinda weird. Carl has already show, on more than several occasions, how inept, stupid, and irresponsible he is. So you reward that by giving him a loaded weapon? And on top of that, it's not even yours to give...it's Darryl's.
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However, I think Andrea will likely pick up where Shane left off by suggesting more hardcore answers to tough decisions.

I don't know...Andrea likes to pretend that she's a badass, but when it comes down to it, she's weak. That's why she wanted to end her life at the CDC. That's why she backs down most of the time. Etc. I mean shite, when Shane came out of the woods, none of the guys even looked to Andrea for assistance...they told the women (and Herschel, T-D, etc.) to "go into the house." And they did. Andrea likes to think she's strong enough to handle things when shite gets real, but she's not. And she, along with everyone else, knows it.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:58 pm to
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quote:
However, I think Andrea will likely pick up where Shane left off by suggesting more hardcore answers to tough decisions.

I don't know...Andrea likes to pretend that she's a badass, but when it comes down to it, she's weak. That's why she wanted to end her life at the CDC. That's why she backs down most of the time. Etc. I mean shite, when Shane came out of the woods, none of the guys even looked to Andrea for assistance...they told the women (and Herschel, T-D, etc.) to "go into the house." And they did. Andrea likes to think she's strong enough to handle things when shite gets real, but she's not. And she, along with everyone else, knows it.



Agree. Good point.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13862 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Yeah I read the comics


Then this really requires that your don't post any assumptions in these episode threads. Did Shane try to kill rick and but rick in turn kills Shane in the comics? That scene looked straight out of a comic book, and while watching it I assumed it was taken right out of the comic book.

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This is purely a guess on what Jenner told Rick. The fact that you will come back regardless...Randle is killed by Shane and comes back as a zombie. Connect the dots!! Yes this happens in the comic books


seriously? are you trying to impress us with your ability to "guess" what comes next?
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17614 posts
Posted on 3/13/12 at 2:08 pm to
Do y'all think the finale will only involve fighting the zombie horde, or will we also get some action from Randall's people?

(Not asking for answers from those who know something, just speculation from those who don't.)
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