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re: True Detective: S2E8 "Omega Station" (Spoilers)
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:43 am to lsuhunt555
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:43 am to lsuhunt555
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So the idea of him dying over a suit was down right stupid.
Pretty sure Frank knew he was going to die the moment they were loading back up in the cars leaving him in the middle of nowhere. He choose to die in his suit with 3.5 million in his pocket rather than die of heat exhaustion in his underwear. Frank had 2 options right there...
option 1: give them the suit and they get an extra 3.5 million as they kill him.
option 2: die with the suit and the mexicans only walk away with the million in cash.
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Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:01 pm to Sho Nuff
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There were many outs including even giving up the suit with the diamonds and coming back hard on the Mexicans later like he could have done.
There is no possible way Frank could have come back hard against anyone. His only loyal guy was out the country with his old lady. Everyone else had been bought off. Even the Greek/Lebanese guys where he got the papers and guns had apparently sold him out to the Mexicans.
The Mexicans didn't pop out of nowhere, the gun dealers sold him out.
Jesus, people bitching about the show, for the most part just missed a lot of what was going on. The show was a step back from season one, no doubt. It was not bad enough o merit all the bitching and whining that the pseudo intellectuals are doing on here.
ETA: Frank knew the guys would potentially sell him out, that's why he offered "another $500K when I get where I'm going". It didn't work. Either someone made a better offer or they had already sold him out.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:08 pm to lsuhunt555
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First how terrible was the first five minutes with Velcorro and Bezzerides in the hotel room? My God, that was terrible.
Pitiful attempt at drama to say the least.
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Then the whole thing in the whole thing in the train station. Really Ray? You thought it would be a good idea to let the guy who was there to kill this dude with a machete listen to yalls conversation? How in the world would that have ended poorly?
I looked at my wife and asked her what the supposed end game there was. There was no point to that situation other than having Velcaro there for a big incident.
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Not to mention that we literally saw this guy one time, ONE TIME, and now hes a huge piece of the show? Come on.
The twist! was forced.
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Now the heist, how in the world was it that easy to pull off? These guys are so private they have more security at their orgies than the president has at an inauguration, yet im supposed to believe they are going to exchange that kind of money with 5 security guards in a shack in the woods?
Once Blake disappeared, they absolutely would have gotten suspicious at least.
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nce I figured it wasnt a bomb, I immediately wondered why the hell he didn't take the money and ditch the car. If he was that certain they were watching then it would have drawn them out. The the whole chase thing, maybe I was wrong but I thought Ray kinda gave up and it was a little out of character.
That whole chase thing was so dumb. They were nowhere to be seen and had no hopes of keeping close in that SUV on gravel, yet were 100 yards behind him when he started running. Then the way he just gave himself up to be shot was the icing on a really shitty cake.
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Then this sudden reemergence of the Mexicans? Come on, this was so lazily done.
And he wasn't at all alarmed when they boxed him in....
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:09 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Jesus, people bitching about the show, for the most part just missed a lot of what was going on.
Yeah, that's it. You're just the smartest person in the room. You get it, but nobody else does.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:12 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Yeah, that's it. You're just the smartest person in the room. You get it, but nobody else does
No, I just took the time to watch THIS SHOW, not compare it to last season.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:13 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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No, I just took the time to watch THIS SHOW, not compare it to last season.
And nobody else watched it, of course.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 1:13 pm to ashy larry
quote:I think this is basically how it played out. But I've mentioned before, I just think the way the scene played out before that, they made it seem like Frank thought he had an out.
Pretty sure Frank knew he was going to die the moment they were loading back up in the cars leaving him in the middle of nowhere. He choose to die in his suit with 3.5 million in his pocket rather than die of heat exhaustion in his underwear. Frank had 2 options right there...
option 1: give them the suit and they get an extra 3.5 million as they kill him.
option 2: die with the suit and the mexicans only walk away with the million in cash.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 1:20 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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And nobody else watched it, of course.
To be fair, there have been a ridiculous amount of ignorant questions in all of the TD threads this season; however, there were also a bunch last season.
And when only a few of us caught on in the first episode that Woodrugh was gay, it was apparent that a lot of shite was going to go over people's heads.
This season was definitely not as good as last season, mostly due to the lack of MM and WH. Without them last season, this show might not have had a second season.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 1:34 pm to guedeaux
quote:I think everyone saw the scene in question, but at that moment with only the 1st episode having been watched, it was certainly no guarantee that he was gay. It could have been a couple of things in play.
And when only a few of us caught on in the first episode that Woodrugh was gay
Posted on 8/11/15 at 1:46 pm to shel311
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I think everyone saw the scene in question, but at that moment with only the 1st episode having been watched, it was certainly no guarantee that he was gay. It could have been a couple of things in play.
Exactly my point...
Posted on 8/11/15 at 1:57 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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And nobody else watched it, of course.
Seems like a lot of people watched it with an eye towards tearing it down and showing how it falls short of last season. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:11 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:Agreed.
Seems like a lot of people watched it with an eye towards tearing it down and showing how it falls short of last season. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:31 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Seems like a lot of people watched it with an eye towards tearing it down and showing how it falls short of last season. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Well, I watched it with an eye towards enjoying it, hence watching every episode the night it aired. I anticipated the new season as much as any show since Avatar. As much as I wanted to enjoy it, though, it was not a good season and it would not stand up alone.
We get it, you liked it. Congrats. Those who didn't like it don't owe it to you to do the same.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:38 pm to guedeaux
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I think everyone saw the scene in question, but at that moment with only the 1st episode having been watched, it was certainly no guarantee that he was gay. It could have been a couple of things in play.
Exactly my point...
he had to pop a viagra to frick by far the hottest girl of the whole season. he needed the viagra because he was either gay or his dick didn't work. while he was popping that viagra, they showed his badly scarred body. for people to assume that the viagra was needed because his dick didn't work due to PTSD was very logical.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:42 pm to tiderider
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got no problem with either frank or ray being taken out, but the sudden re-emergence of the mexican gangs over lost/destroyed property is a stretch for a realistic ending to frank's role ...
I think everyone is underestimating the mexican gang and assuming they only killed frank b/c he fricked up their deal to sell in the clubs. The mexicans were probably big players from day one. It just wasn't spoon fed to us. They killed the girl, Irina, "b/c she talked to cops". That cop was burris. It's pretty convenient they killed her before she could say anything to Frank. Seems like Burris and Tony Cessani had ties to the Mexicans.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:44 pm to 632627
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he had to pop a viagra to frick by far the hottest girl of the whole season. he needed the viagra because he was either gay or his dick didn't work. while he was popping that viagra, they showed his badly scarred body. for people to assume that the viagra was needed because his dick didn't work due to PTSD was very logical.
There were many other context clues in that scene. It's ok. A lot of people just aren't good at picking up things that aren't shoved directly in their faces...
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:51 pm to ashy larry
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They killed the girl, Irina, "b/c she talked to cops". That cop was burris. It's pretty convenient they killed her before she could say anything to Frank.
That's a pretty good point. I am having trouble remembering the lead up to her getting her throat slashed. Were the Mexicans listening to the phone conversation between her and Frank? If so, then maybe they didn't know about her talking to Burris. So, she says she talked to a skinny cop, they realize she is talking about Burris and kill her before their group gets outed. If they knew she talked to Burris beforehand, it seems weird that they would even let her talk to Frank at all.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:55 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Dude, everyone knows what it was trying to portray
Agree, that it could have been used better.
No, I don't think a number of these folks do know what it was trying to portray. The posts over the series bear that out.
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:22 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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We get it, you liked it. Congrats. Those who didn't like it don't owe it to you to do the same.
#ushowisangry
It'll be OK dude, CHILL.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 8/11/15 at 3:25 pm to ashy larry
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Seems like Burris and Tony Cessani had ties to the Mexicans.
Look at them 2....
IS that the Cisco kid standing there at the swearing in ceremony?
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