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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:19 am to
Tuttle may help Rust for all we know.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:23 am to
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It will be interesting to see the dialogue between Tuttle & Rust in E6.


My out there guess is that Rust "mixes up" Tuttle's "medication" at some point.
Posted by CoCo311
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:23 am to
We haven't really seen enough of Maggie in the '12 timeline to gauge how fricked up she is.

It may not be the grandpa, but its def someone who had access to Audrey at a young age. The clips of the girls while Marty is saying that it was right under his nose and her throwing the crown up into the tree, the whole thing was just wayyyyy to ominous.
Posted by angryslugs
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:24 am to
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I just don't buy the creepy grandfather theory.


I don't either. Saying it was obvious was a poor choice of words. I do think she's witnessed something involving the cult
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:25 am to
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I'd like to know how y'all came to the idea that Audrey was molested?


Because at 8 years old she was drawing sex scenes and making gang rape scenes with her Barbie's. Add in the fact that she's willfully getting plowed by 2 older dudes at 16 and it makes sense. I am not convinced, but rather thing she may have found some fricked up polaroids in Grandpa's attic.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:25 am to
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but there is a lot of shite that he does that doesn't fit. like, not letting rust stay outside the compound to go back and warn ledoux, etc. going on that COMPLETELY illegal, and more importantly risky, run to beamont. the excitement re: finding out about ledoux's old drug charges while rust is interviewing the guy on the mower at the school.



Maybe he knew Ledoux wasn't that important to the grand scheme(if even involved) so he was expendable if it got hart off the case.

I don't buy it
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:26 am to
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he wants them to buy that he's just a sad drunk living in a shack, when in reality he's busting his arse with the case.


Marty hinted at this in the interview "That Rust already had a read on these detectives."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:28 am to
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Maybe he knew Ledoux wasn't that important to the grand scheme(if even involved) so he was expendable if it got hart off the case.

he didn't exactly push to give the case to the task force, though. IF he is part of the cult, this argument would make sense to explain why he'd want to control the case. however, what he does DURING the investigation doesn't make sense from that angle
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:28 am to
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Just that she was molested by someone


what if her drawings are the result of eavesdropping on Dad's conversations about work? Kids pick up on all kinds of shite (i'm told) so its not unreasonable to think she just may be a curious kid that drew pics or staged dolls based on the shite she heard her parents discussing. As for her teenage years, its not odd (sadly) that a teen would dress "goth" or experiment sexually. if for no other reason than to piss off her cop dad who fricked around on mom. That might be an angle as opposed to the molested thing.

Question:
what happened to Ginger? Are we to assume he is dead after Rust's comment about him being tied up in a ditch?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:30 am to
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The clips of the girls while Marty is saying that it was right under his nose and her throwing the crown up into the tree, the whole thing was just wayyyyy to ominous.


I felt like that entire scene had something to do with the loss of innocents with age.

Also, during that scene I thought the younger daughter was going to be kidnapped or something.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:30 am to
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what happened to Ginger?

i don't see a way that he wouldn't be killed, but that's somewhat nit picky
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:30 am to
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Also, during that scene I thought the younger daughter was going to be kidnapped or something.

i thought she was going to climb the tree and fall/die like rust's kid
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:31 am to
With the tone of this show and the intimation that "big" people are in play, I don't have any reason to suspect that it will be a happy, or even satisfying, ending. Satisfying in terms of the "right outcome." I believe everything will be resolved, but one or a number of key offenders will walk.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:32 am to
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Marty hinted at this in the interview "That Rust already had a read on these detectives."

Which makes me believe that Rust has been tailing certain people while being off the grid. Marty may very well be his inside guy who gives him bits and pieces of information. It all adds up to the big falling out being an acting job.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:32 am to
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lso, why have we still yet to see the scene play out that was shown at the end of episode 3 I think it was? Where the guy was walking along the edge of that tree line in his underwear and holding a machete.


That was not a look ahead. That was real. It was a current show of Reggie's compound without Cohle and Marty there.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:34 am to
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That was not a look ahead. That was real. It was a current show of Reggie's compound without Cohle and Marty there.

No it wasn't. That was from the '95 timeline.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:35 am to
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what if her drawings are the result of eavesdropping on Dad's conversations about work?


She was drawing dick pics, so I don't think that her dad was talking about that at work.

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As for her teenage years, its not odd (sadly) that a teen would dress "goth" or experiment sexually. if for no other reason than to piss off her cop dad who fricked around on mom. That might be an angle as opposed to the molested thing.


Banging 2 20 year olds at the age of 16 is not really common or experimenting. Molestation has a tendency of leading to promiscuity. It's hard to believe that the last couple episodes would focus on Marty's "detecitve curse" for it not to be something major in the story line.

Who knows though.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:35 am to
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No it wasn't. That was from the '95 timeline.


that's what he is saying...
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:35 am to
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he didn't exactly push to give the case to the task force, though. IF he is part of the cult, this argument would make sense to explain why he'd want to control the case. however, what he does DURING the investigation doesn't make sense from that angle



that theory doesn't make any sense
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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477263 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:39 am to
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Satisfying in terms of the "right outcome." I believe everything will be resolved, but one or a number of key offenders will walk.

i worry that it won't be satisfying in terms of the story itself. it's a police/detective/investigation story, so there has to be a reveal. i'm really worried that there is going to be a shock reveal at the end

rust's soliloquy last night made me sad. it was like a blatant example of how the show is about more style than substance. it's whatever, but this is exactly what i was worried about discussing episode 1 and rust (i just didn't fully conceptualize it at that time).

we shall see
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