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re: True Detective S1E5 "The Secret Fate of All Life"

Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:41 am to
You and Andy Greenwald giving each other rusty trombones slow? What a debbie downer. And there is nothing wrong with a "reveal" if done right. It isnt inherently lazy.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:41 am to
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worry that it won't be satisfying in terms of the story itself. it's a police/detective/investigation story, so there has to be a reveal. i'm really worried that there is going to be a shock reveal at the end

rust's soliloquy last night made me sad. it was like a blatant example of how the show is about more style than substance. it's whatever, but this is exactly what i was worried about discussing episode 1 and rust (i just didn't fully conceptualize it at that time).

we shall see


We get it
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:42 am to
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he didn't exactly push to give the case to the task force, though. IF he is part of the cult, this argument would make sense to explain why he'd want to control the case.


Marty was more than willing to give it up to the task force, FWIR. It was Cohle who had gotten new info and wanted more time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:42 am to
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that theory doesn't make any sense

if he's part of the cult and wanted to ditch the investigation, he had ample opportunity to and refused

if he's part of the cult and wanted to control the investigation, he had ample opportunity to steer it away from ledoux and refused. ignoring the whole "compound" issue, all he had to do is refuse to partake in an incredibly illegal plan with the bikers
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:42 am to
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You and Andy Greenwald giving each other rusty trombones slow?

who is andy greenwald?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:43 am to
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i think the grandpa shite needs to be put to rest


I agree. I just don't see it, nor do I see how the show could effectively explore that angle with the time we've got left.

Now, the daughter is definitely involved, either directly or indirectly. IMO, her exposure to the cult has yet to come, despite the drawings and Barbie scene. I believe those are the things Marty is referencing when he says that all of the clues were right under his nose, but it doesn't mean she is in the cult up to this point.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:44 am to
Guy with Grantland TV podcast who doesnt like true detective. Hollywood Prospectus podcast, i recommend it. I generally agree with the guy but he has a stick up his arse about TD.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:44 am to
Interesting little tidbit: When Rust comes back out with the AK, he tells Marty "F*ck him. Good to see you commit to something."
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:44 am to
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I don't have any reason to suspect that it will be a happy, or even satisfying, ending. Satisfying in terms of the "right outcome." I believe everything will be resolved, but one or a number of key offenders will walk.


Based on NPs interviews, I'd agree. Cohle's lecture on life not being solved is another hint at this.
Posted by TheEye
Rightcha.
Member since Dec 2006
5007 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:44 am to
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Yes. This was significant. Bookmark it, Rust is already dead. Marty's interview is two weeks later.

something keeps telling me that the interviews happen a good time apart.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:45 am to
And why do they have o? Cause they're often assaulted by men.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38057 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:45 am to
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i don't see a way that he wouldn't be killed, but that's somewhat nit picky


i don't either which is why I'm asking. Last i saw he was on the floorboard of Rust's truck. Wasn't sure if Marty and Rust greased him as he was no longer needed. Just a loose end I was curious about.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:45 am to
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F*ck him. Good to see you commit to something

i laughed my fricking arse off
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:45 am to
Greenwald has a stick up his arse because he missed judged this show from the jump. Everysince then he's found any kind of way to nitpick about shite in TD.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:46 am to
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No it wasn't. That was from the '95 timeline.


Exactly what I am saying. That was not a scene that was ever meant to be shown later. When we saw that, it was in "real time" as far as the look back into 1995 went. It was just to introduce Reggie's compound to us, and the monster that lived there.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:46 am to
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Interesting little tidbit: When Rust comes back out with the AK, he tells Marty "F*ck him. Good to see you commit to something."


I also liked when he told Marty later in the episode, Ledoux deserved to die. Makes me think there is more vigilante justice to come.
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
6058 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:46 am to
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I think they killed Ledoux near Choupique. Every episode they're getting closer to my house.


Sulphur.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:46 am to
i like TD

it hasn't jumped the shark (other than rust, which is whatever at this point), yet
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131618 posts
Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:47 am to
Yeah he thought it was just a serial killer story from the jump, which it isnt.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 8:48 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 8:47 am to
I felt like Rust's line "What that's, Nietzche? Shut the frick up" was a nod to SFP
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