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re: Trailer for ‘THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR'. Directed by & starring Michael B. Jordan.

Posted on 7/30/26 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52692 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 8:58 am to
i trust MBJ.

The McQueen movie is shite and the Brosnan remake is OK.

It's possible to improve upon an idea.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28696 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:15 am to
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It's possible to improve upon an idea.


It's also possible to do this to an idea.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
116770 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:27 am to
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i trust MBJ.

The McQueen movie is shite and the Brosnan remake is OK.

It's possible to improve upon an idea


Except, he's not.

In the movies, Crown was stealing for the thrill of it because he was essentially bored with his staid life as a successful businessman and the hook is his being discovered and matching wits with an insurance investigator looking into the crime (1968 - bank robbery; 1999 - art heist).

The plot description for the 2027 film is nothing of the sort in terms of motivations for the main character. Additionally, his seduction of the investigator will undoubtedly result in her agreeing with his motivations (which was never the case in the previous versions [in 1968 she did not go over to him whereas in 1999 she was essentially corrupted]).

It's basically theft of an IP.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
85266 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:39 am to
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The McQueen movie
wasn't even the best or most profitable McQueen movie that year.

He released Bullit that same year
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6367 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:22 am to
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Additionally, his seduction of the investigator will undoubtedly result in her agreeing with his motivations (which was never the case in the previous versions [in 1968 she did not go over to him whereas in 1999 she was essentially corrupted]).


You're annoyed with a thing that you've now made up. You don't know how it will play out.

Also, your post points out significant differences between the McQueen and Brosnan versions. Why was the Brosnan remake not IP theft?

quote:

Young businessman Thomas Crown is bored and decides to plan a robbery and assigns a professional agent with the right information to the job. However, Crown is soon betrayed yet cannot blow his cover because he’s in love.

quote:

Bored billionaire executive Thomas Crown entertains himself by stealing a Monet from a reputed museum with an elaborate diversion. When Catherine Banning, the insurance company's investigator, takes an interest in Crown, he may have met his match, and a complicated back-and-forth game with seductive undertones begins between them.

quote:

A debonair, adventuresome man believes he has pulled off the perfect multi-million dollar heist, only to match wits with an insurance investigator who will do anything to get her man.


These don't sound very different. 2027 is just missing the word bored. But the voice-over at the start of the teaser certainly suggest he's doing things like heists and racing cars because he has to constantly up the thrill to feel anything. In other words, boredom.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28696 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:04 pm to
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You're annoyed with a thing that you've now made up.


Also you:
quote:

Closer to the release, there will be some dudes telling you why it makes no sense based on biology that the Africans could conjure any magic.


Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
2796 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:13 pm to
One is an unfounded example of wish casting the plot.

The other is a prediction of a certain segment's conditioned reaction. Pavlov has thoughts if you want to read further.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28696 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:15 pm to
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The other is a prediction


They're both predictions.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24969 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:26 pm to
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These don't sound very different.
curious you don’t address Jordan’s quotes isn’t it?

You realize the official synopsis isn’t going to outright tell you the agenda?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52692 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Except, he's not.

In the movies, Crown was stealing for the thrill of it because he was essentially bored with his staid life as a successful businessman and the hook is his being discovered and matching wits with an insurance investigator looking into the crime (1968 - bank robbery; 1999 - art heist).

The plot description for the 2027 film is nothing of the sort in terms of motivations for the main character. Additionally, his seduction of the investigator will undoubtedly result in her agreeing with his motivations (which was never the case in the previous versions [in 1968 she did not go over to him whereas in 1999 she was essentially corrupted]).

It's basically theft of an IP.


IP Theft

this is a modern re-telling no different than Ocean's 11 not a shot for shot remake of the original.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
7744 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:44 pm to
This looks awful. And the delivery in that trailer doesn't sound like it's coming from an "Academy Award Winner" but a first time actor in a student film.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38837 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:16 pm to
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this is a modern re-telling no different than Ocean's 11 not a shot for shot remake of the original.


Incorrect.

A modern retelling would be taking the story, putting it in the modern day and keeping it close to the original intention.


As soon as you inject race and politics and colonialization into this - it's no longer TCA. So, yes, it's IP Theft.

Had MBJ made a straight "modern retelling," he would focus on a cool heist movie with a black billionaire. Some people would have said something, but they would have been the minority and have been wrong. A black Thomas Crown would be 100% ok.



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