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Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by RabidTiger
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Has anyone seen a good discussion of the pathology of Todd? I usually see him called a sociopath but he doesn't really fit the antisocial aspect as I understand it. I mean he is completely fricked but I don't know how the experts would label his particular brand of frickery.


I think sociopath fits. The main thing is he is incapable of empathy. So to him other people are just objects to fit his needs. So he killed the cleaning lady the same way you would throw out a broken toaster. That's also why he stopped to get his belt and just put it back on. He needed his belt back for his pants so he got it. Wrapped around someone's neck is just the same as hanging on a hangar to him.

Also, I'm not sure what definition of antisocial you're operating on. The term as it's used in mental health seems to fit to me.

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Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5406 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 6:32 pm to
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He shot him the the other gun he had in his jacket pocket, it never really ended up being an actual duel


True. But he also had to take down the second guy.
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:45 pm to
Idk close range shot ... good movie idk good long last episode ok.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 7:59 pm to
Todd would've made a really interesting kylo ren
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 9:19 pm to
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He needed his belt back for his pants so he got it. 


I dont think he really needed it..
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 10:30 pm to
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Damn, the pepperoni pizza scene... talk about broken.

Jesse's Reek moment.
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:01 pm to
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Todd would've made a really interesting kylo ren



Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 10/12/19 at 11:19 pm to
Is there anything Jesse Plemons is in where he isnt a POS?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:50 am to
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Is there anything Jesse Plemons is in where he isnt a POS?


Ed in the second season of Fargo?
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:41 am to
Did I hear the radio right that Skyler was killed in some “apparent gang” related activity?

And who was the lady they reported as being in the hospital with an unknown illness? I assumed they’re referring to a ricin poisoning of Lydia? (Don’t really remember how her story wrapped up in the series.)



Lastly, and maybe this was just me, but I didn’t once hear anyone in the movie actually say that WW is dead.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 7:42 am
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3825 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:44 am to
I am pretty sure they said Walter was dead. Lydia was indeed the woman they were talking about that was poisoned and I never heard anything about Sklyer. I would like to rewatch that part though.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:30 am to
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Lastly, and maybe this was just me, but I didn’t once hear anyone in the movie actually say that WW is dead.


They say that he's dead on one of the news broadcasts.
Posted by MF Doom
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:32 am to
I'm pretty sure he was one of the finalist to play him
Posted by musick
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 11:33 am to
2 news broadcasts mention it actually, the radio and the television one
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 12:45 pm to
Haven't seen the fargo series yet, been wanting to check it out
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 12:45 pm
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 6:49 pm to
Just finished it. LOVED it.

Highlights:
All the Todd scenes, specifically killing the cleaning lady who was the "nicest person ever", "I need to find a new place to hide my money", the pizza scene and Jesse broken all the way

The back and forth in the vacuum shop

The shoot out with grandpa's gun

The flashback with Walter

The end where Jesse finds peace

I wasn't bored for one minute and it was all so good and just what I wanted from a BB movie.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 6:50 pm to
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I didn’t once hear anyone in the movie actually say that WW is dead


it was in a news report on the car radio in the beginning before Jesse got to Skinny Pete's house
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
4224 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 7:47 pm to
Just watched. Loved it, although I’m left with the feeling of wanting more, again. BB is by far my favorite TV series of all-time.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 10/13/19 at 9:10 pm to
With regards to the pizza scene, didn't Jesse not really have a choice because the nazi gang would have gone after Brock even if Jesse killed Todd and got away?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7916 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:18 am to
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didn't Jesse not really have a choice because the nazi gang would have gone after Brock even if Jesse killed Todd and got away?


Correct that is the only reason he didn't shoot him right there. Todd knew he had Brock over him.
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