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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul Season 6 Episode 1 and 2 Thread (Page 15/16 spoil zone)

Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:03 pm to
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There's really no point in arguing who was following them, we don't have enough info yet.

I see 3 possibilities.

1. Mike- needing some type of help on the Nacho situation.

2.Howard may already have a tail on them.

3. It could be the D.A./police trying to figure out the Jorge Deguzman situation.


well we can easily argue its not mike because we have plenty of info about what mike is up to. mike is busy dealing with gus and the nacho extraction. the nacho extraction is time sensitive, it just makes no sense to waste a day or more tailing saul when he needs to be getting to mexico ASAP to deal with the imminent threat to gus's entire operation.
and there is hard evidence its not mike's car tailing saul. mike's license plate is different than the one tailing saul.

but its true there is no point arguing about those #2/#3 at this point.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:07 pm to
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well we can easily argue its not mike because we have plenty of info about what mike is up to


I don't think it's Mike either, but it can't be ruled out just base on him being to busy.if Mike wants something done he'll figure it out.

I think it's most likely Howard's P.I. though, it would make more sense.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:23 pm to
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I don't think it's Mike either, but it can't be ruled out just base on him being to busy


you did post to me earlier you thought it was mike. and I think we can rule him out because he is too busy and cannot be in 2 places at once.

quote:

I think it's most likely Howard's P.I. though, it would make more sense.


I think its smart you changed your mind to to this, Its where my money has been.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:35 pm to
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you did post to me earlier you thought it was mike


I've never thought it was anyone for sure, I just mentioned Mike was a possibility.

I am kind of hoping it is, because that would probably be the start of Nacho getting extracted by the vacuum man.

That scenario would get complicated though. Nacho isn't going anywhere without his dad. Howard's P.I. seems the most likely scenario.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:56 pm to
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I've never thought it was anyone for sure, I just mentioned Mike was a possibility.
I am kind of hoping it is, because that would probably be the start of Nacho getting extracted by the vacuum man.

That scenario would get complicated though. Nacho isn't going anywhere without his dad. Howard's P.I. seems the most likely scenario.


you did say the quote below though, and we know it isn't mike's car based off the license plates and he can't be in 2 places at once.
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I think it was Mike following Saul. It was a Mike type car.

It's OK to change your mind though. because mike isn't really a possibility, we know he's busy dealing with gus then going to mexico to extract nacho.

I will give you kudos because I'm impressed you have been sticking to plot instead of going apeshit about kim at the end of the episode 3 trailer. but lets leave it at that for now.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:28 pm to
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And yes, I agree. His plan really sucked. While Gus doesn't make mistakes often, he does make them.


My new theory: Gus almost lost Mike over the german engineer killing. Gus knows that Mike cares for Nacho and might quit if Gus kills Nacho and it's dangerous to have operators in Mexico to kill Nacho because they could get caught by the Salamancas. So, Gus decides to set up Nacho to be killed by the Salamancas. He decides that their anger and Nachos directions to kill whoever comes through the door would be enough to get him dead (and maybe the man in the a/c hut will be the back up plan to kill him). However, Gus' overly intricate plan to kill Nacho fails and that's when Gus is shaken and knocks over the water glass.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:29 pm to
Does anyone remember Saul or Kim writing in a small notebook in BB or BCS? I'm racking my brain and can't recall it. I ask because a notebook was seized at Saul's house with weird coded writing.

May be important, but may be nothing. Seems like it could come up again this season though.

This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:29 pm to
BCS season 6 is somewhere around 2005 and the mystery car was a '90 or older Caprice. Police departments generally don't keep cars that long, and BCS seems pretty accurate with cars and such as far as setting the time period, so I'd lean towards it being a PI for Howard.

Posted by Rum Ham
Member since Feb 2012
226 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:30 pm to
Ham, what was the big bombshell in the previews that you alluded to?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:32 pm to
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BCS season 6 is somewhere around 2005 and the mystery car was a '90 or older Caprice. Police departments generally don't keep cars that long, and BCS seems pretty accurate with cars and such as far as setting the time period, so I'd lean towards it being a PI for Howard.



100%.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:35 pm to
Plus Howard would know from his lawyer friends that the couple that runs that Tax service were spreading around he's on coke.

And, a lawyer raised a stink about Jimmie being at the club, the same day the "coke" appears, that Howard likely heard about.

If it's not a PI for Howard I'll be amazed.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12958 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Bolsa knows damn well that Gus ordered that hit (and Gus knows that he knows) but it is in Bolsa's business interests (and possibly his continued living interests) to make sure the mess gets cleaned up

Bolsa is an interesting topic. In S5 he puts a hit on Lalo's bail money and Gus found out but the Salamanca's still don't know. Bolsa has to know that it was Gus who thwarted his plan and he can't rule out that Jimmy told Lalo or Nacho about it. For that reason he needs both Lalo and Nacho dead. Gus would know this so he would expect Bolsa to make it a priority to not allow the Salamancas to take Nacho alive, and you would think Bolsa now has the added incentive of pleasing Gus since he knows his dirt
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90336 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:14 pm to
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May be important, but may be nothing. Seems like it could come up again this season though.


I can't imagine vince showing us a book of hieroglyphic looking gibberish in Saul Goodman's house and it not be somewhat important.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Does anyone remember Saul or Kim writing in a small notebook in BB or BCS? I'm racking my brain and can't recall it. I ask because a notebook was seized at Saul's house with weird coded writing.

May be important, but may be nothing. Seems like it could come up again this season though.


yea its hard to see that not coming back up, it seems important. whats even more strange is that it was dropped into a box labeled "no value"
so I assume the feds did not seize it as evidence, and it will likely be tossed, but saul may need it for something.


also medications found in his house:
saul seems to be in an all out war with hair loss. minoxidil, biotin, and finasteride for hair loss. spironolactone could also be used for hair loss but may be an indication saul has heart problems considering there is another medication that appears to end in OLOL which would be a beta blocker used for heart issues or off label anxiety. fluoxetine for anxiety type problems which may also cause ED and viagra for ED.
numlifor - a fictional medication.
and 2 additional unknown medications turned around
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5732 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:41 pm to
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I'd lean towards it being a PI for Howard.


Most logical. You know at some point he would send somebody there to get eyes on who started the rumor and is mixed up in the plant.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

BCS season 6 is somewhere around 2005 and the mystery car was a '90 or older Caprice. Police departments generally don't keep cars that long, and BCS seems pretty accurate with cars and such as far as setting the time period, so I'd lean towards it being a PI for Howard.




I figured it was Lalo following them. Didn't he say he knew where to get "proof." Lalo also followed Mike in a similar manner. However, that is assuming a time jump and Lalo already being back across the boarder. Idk probably not right, just what my first thought was.

ETA: "Proof" being forcing Saul to explain the truth about what happened with the bail money and proving that Bolsa and Gus both went out of their way to frick him over, albeit independently and basically countering each other's move.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:38 pm to
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I figured it was Lalo following them. Didn't he say he knew where to get "proof." 


He did say that, but then immediately canceled his border crossing. Assuming his proof is in Mexico and he's talking about Nacho. The twins said to take him alive, so I'm assuming Lalo gave them that order.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:46 pm to
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He did say that, but then immediately canceled his border crossing. Assuming his proof is in Mexico and he's talking about Nacho. The twins said to take him alive, so I'm assuming Lalo gave them that order.


Yeah that could be. I need to rewatch but I feel like the scene of Lalo and the coyotes was right before Saul and Kim at the Kettlemens. Probably a red herring, as Lalo knows he's wanted for murder and bail skipping in "the North." Plus his need for revenge would point him wherever Nacho might be.

Can't believe Jimmy let Lalo's name slip to the ADA and investigator. Very uncharacteristic, and will no doubt be a catalyst for bad things.

ETA: loved the scene where Gus shakes Hectors hand and immediately knows Lalo is alive. Greatly mirrors their final scene together in BB.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Rum Ham
Member since Feb 2012
226 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:03 pm to
How do we know that Bolsa was the one that ordered the hit on the bail money in the desert? I can’t remember season 5.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2984 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:06 pm to
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How do we know that Bolsa was the one that ordered the hit on the bail money in the desert? I can’t remember season 5.
Gus talks to Bolsa on the phone about the hit while Mike is in the room, when they hang up he says he just spoke to the man who did it.

This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:07 pm
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