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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E06 “Axe and Grind” Thread

Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:27 am to
Posted by LSU Jax
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:27 am to
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saul doesnt end up murdered. he ends up successfully or unsuccessfully criminal lawyering for himself.

Well we do see Gene slipping on the flashy Saul Goodman jacket in the season 6 ad so you could be correct.

This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12768 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:35 am to
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Yeah, about all he has to worry about is the FEDS...


What exactly do the Feds have on Saul? Gus, Mike, Walter are all dead. Jesse probably narced on him, but he disappeared. I think Skyler is keeping her mouth shut. Being a criminal's lawyer is not illegal; being a criminal lawyer is. Maybe he shows up to take his medicine and fight the charges.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37054 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:44 am to
My body is ready

Let’s grind this day out and get to BCS
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25421 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:59 am to
Lalo is going to kill Casper isn't he.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:40 am to
Yeah I'm ready too, maybe we will get some final episodes dedicated to Gene
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1858 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:42 am to
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my bet is that Mike takes him out when he gets too close to Fring


I’m gonna guess Mike takes Lalo out from the hills above the factory.

Gus put the gun inside as a fail safe.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:04 am to
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What exactly do the Feds have on Saul?


pretty sure conspiracy to ____ will be on that list which will include (maybe shitloads of murders), drug trafficking/manufacture, money laundering etc. he's one of the most wanted for a reason...

quote:

I think Skyler is keeping her mouth shut.

skyler is singing like a bird actively working with the feds/DEA, pretty sure we saw that in BB, her livelihood depends on it and she has no reason/interest to protect saul.

quote:

Being a criminal's lawyer is not illegal; being a criminal lawyer is. Maybe he shows up to take his medicine and fight the charges.

but conspiring/aiding international drug organizations is. although im sure that will be his defense, that he was just lawyering.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:06 am
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:26 pm to
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but conspiring/aiding international drug organizations is. although im sure that will be his defense, that he was just lawyering.



Yeah with most of them dead its his word against no word.

Man I can't wait for tonights episode.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12768 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:41 pm to
But what evidence beyond hearsay from people who are dead do the Feds have? Skyler could be talking but what does she actually know about Saul's operation. She can't testify that Walt told her X. That is uncorroborated hearsay.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7830 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
They should have Lalo show up and murder Gus and Mike, and offer no explanation on the lack of continuity with the breaking bad series and just end it troll level 1 million
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:18 pm to
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We better get some fricking Gene cab driver footage bruh…


Have we seen him at all in S06 yet? Can't remember when the scene with the 2 "say it" guys in the mall was. Is that the last time we've seen gene?

man.. that was back in S05E01. (I never realized that we've only see Gene in E01 of each season. Maybe we don't see him till after the mid-season break? so E08?)
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:22 pm to
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They should have Lalo show up and murder Gus and Mike, and offer no explanation on the lack of continuity with the breaking bad series and just end it troll level 1 million


That would be fricking EPIC!!
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:07 pm to
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What exactly do the Feds have on Saul?


Money laundering for the cartel and Walt. One of the reasons he bugged out in the first place.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6456 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:00 pm to
Looking forward to tonight. Last week, I watched the episode and the immediate repeat. Probably do the same tonight.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89487 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 4:00 pm to
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They should have Lalo show up and murder Gus and Mike, and offer no explanation on the lack of continuity with the breaking bad series and just end it troll level 1 million


it really probably shouldn't but this made me bust out laughing
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 4:02 pm to
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But what evidence beyond hearsay from people who are dead do the Feds have? Skyler could be talking but what does she actually know about Saul's operation. She can't testify that Walt told her X. That is uncorroborated hearsay.



she has plenty of direct knowledge she wasnt just a wife who was only told hearsay...she was actively involved in the criminal enterprise and had met with saul regarding such matters.

Skyler called saul for help with ted vs IRS and ted ended up paralyzed, she knows he had something to do with that. that was all about tax fraud and money laundering. both of which she already had met directly with saul to discuss hiding walts criminal enterprise from her brother in law.
she had discussed with walt killing jesse, and knew saul was a part of that.
she helped saul's team extort the guy to buy the car wash.

Skyler can corroborate sauls participation in conspiracy for drug manufacturing/trade, extortion, tax fraud, money laundering at a minimum. also skyler has motivations to testify against saul. because of saul, walt was enabled to do the things he did which ended up in her brother's death and overall wrecking her life.

with skyler able to directly corroborate money laundering, money trails should be traceable back to saul and other criminal ops. money laundering is for IRS audits, it won't withstand an FBI's most wanted type of investigation.

ETA - hearsay is admissible if its relating to criminal conspiracy, discussing matters to further the conspiracy. so pretty much anything skyler knows (which is quite a bit) would be admissible corroborating evidence.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62029 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 4:46 pm to
Trying to figure out what the episode title refers to, think we see the cousins’ shiny axe they tried to kill Walt and Hank with somehow?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 4:53 pm to
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Trying to figure out what the episode title refers to, think we see the cousins’ shiny axe they tried to kill Walt and Hank with somehow?



I think its going to deal with the parties that have axes to grind, prepping for their war.

gus v lalo.
jimmy/kim v howard.


after their axes ground and ready the next episode is 'plan and execution' where see their battle plans in action.
Posted by dirtsandwich
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Member since May 2016
6456 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 4:57 pm to
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the cousins’ shiny axe

Had totally forgotten about that. Damn, I need to do a rewatch of BB.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Skyler


Id like to see Saul cross-examine her over all of this.

That would be a fun watch. Seems she'd have to destroy herself to destroy him.
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