- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: THR: Behind Warner Bros.’ Search for a Black Superman
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:49 pm to skrayper
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:49 pm to skrayper
quote:
But yeah, going back to what you were saying - if the movie is set on Earth-23, for example, then Superman IS black. Just as Red Son is an alternate Earth with Superman in communist Soviet Union, this movie could be set there.
I make no bones about being unapologetically in the bag for Marvel, and everything I know about comics I learned from comic book movies, but if what you're saying is true, I would not only be totally down with those possibilities, but kinda excited to see them come to fruition on the big screen.
How ironic is it that despite holding what are arguably the tentpole comic franchises of Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman, DC can't string together two solid hits in a row? (I'd argue that Spider-Man would be the 4th most well-known, prior to the MCU).
2
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:51 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
Also, I love how it's literally "one source." So it's probably not even an "insider at Warners/DC," it's prolly just some random idiot on Twitter.
Are you familiar with the trades? The Hollywood Reporter doesn't report on bullshite rumors
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:51 pm to VoxDawg
quote:
I make no bones about being unapologetically in the bag for Marvel, and everything I know about comics I learned from comic book movies, but if what you're saying is true, I would not only be totally down with those possibilities, but kinda excited to see them come to fruition on the big screen.
Setting it on an alternate earth would be acceptable, but I believe they have said that's not what they are doing here.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:53 pm to Proximo
quote:
Are you familiar with the trades? The Hollywood Reporter doesn't report on bull shite rumors
lol... ok.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:54 pm to BlackAdam
quote:
lol... ok.
Your intelligence is showing. Refute what I said or shut the frick up
Posted on 5/5/21 at 1:59 pm to VoxDawg
quote:
How ironic is it that despite holding what are arguably the tentpole comic franchises of Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman, DC can't string together two solid hits in a row? (I'd argue that Spider-Man would be the 4th most well-known, prior to the MCU).
Batman did string some hits together, but Superman hasn't since the Reeves run.
Wonder Woman is problematic in that her lore changes ALL THE TIME. Writers love to retcon the shite out of her origin, and it makes writing a coherent story about her difficult.
She was sculpted from clay. No, now she's just a really well trained Amazon. Oh wait, now she's actually a god. Now she has no powers, now she has some, etc.
Spider-Man probably is #3, but I concede your point - DC has had a rough go despite having ridiculously popular characters. Marvel was making Iron Man, a lesser known and sometimes genuinely disliked character, into one of the most popular characters ever. All because of getting the right actor and the right writing. I'd say that the casting decisions by DC were NOT their issues (except for the Flash in the movies, maybe), but rather writing and direction. Probably too much studio interference.
As one reviewer pointed out, the people doing the MCU both KNOW and LOVE the characters. The DCEU folks don't. How else do you explain Thor: Ragnarok (in terms of writing) vs the depictions of Batman in the DCEU? Ragnarok pulls out storybits from obscure comics and completely unrelated storylines, while DCEU Batman is pretty much The Dark Knight Returns Batman and... nothing else.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:04 pm to skrayper
quote:
Wonder Woman is problematic in that her lore changes ALL THE TIME. Writers love to retcon the shite out of her origin, and it makes writing a coherent story about her difficult.
They had a whole lot of goodwill built up with how they were handling Wonder Woman...until the abomination known as Wonder Woman 1984.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:06 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
They had a whole lot of goodwill built up with how they were handling Wonder Woman...until the abomination known as Wonder Woman 1984.
It's just so bad. I hate that Linda Carter's cameo came in such a terrible movie.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:08 pm to skrayper
I've never been so pumped about a movie to be so utterly let down. I couldn't believe it.
ETA: I take that back. Last Jedi was a worse letdown.
ETA: I take that back. Last Jedi was a worse letdown.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:11 pm to skrayper
quote:
As one reviewer pointed out, the people doing the MCU both KNOW and LOVE the characters. The DCEU folks don't.
Thats definitely true. The MCU is Marvel people. DC is run by Warner Bros. I still don’t understand why they rushed everything. So Marvel was ahead. Big deal. Build your universe, and they'd be pulling im the big bucks as well.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:12 pm to Proximo
quote:
Your intelligence is showing. Refute what I said or shut the frick up
they have an entire gossip blog which is just filled with any wild arse rumor one of their reporters hears.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
Will Warner Bros. cast a black actress to portray Lois Lane?
Will Kal-El be adopted by black parents? In Kansas?
Will the fact that even his closest friends and his lover can't tell that Clark Kent is Superman seem even more ridiculous when the character is portrayed by a black actor? At least Christopher Reeve could comb his hair differently in costume...
Will Kal-El be adopted by black parents? In Kansas?
Will the fact that even his closest friends and his lover can't tell that Clark Kent is Superman seem even more ridiculous when the character is portrayed by a black actor? At least Christopher Reeve could comb his hair differently in costume...
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
Can’t wait to get Tyrone Stark as our next Iron Man
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
If they are still shooting for an extended universe (which who fricking knows at this point), it would create some continuity issues but Yahya Abdul-Mateen II seems like a guy that could at least look the part...
Plus he was awesome as Dr. Manhattan in HBO's Watchmen series
Plus he was awesome as Dr. Manhattan in HBO's Watchmen series
Posted on 5/5/21 at 2:38 pm to Proximo
quote:
A critical point is it’s going to be a black Kal-el. fricking ridiculous, that is, a race swap of an existing character and probably the most well known comic character ever
Meh
It already happened in a comic book years ago. They are just recycling that idea.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:14 pm to RLDSC FAN
I guess the residue from the failed Green Lantern movie is just too toxic still, but if you want a black hero, I don't understand why DC keeps ignoring John Stewart.
If done right, it could be a huge and enduring hit. I mean, we're talking a massively (and uniquely) powerful guy, who is known and established.
Unless canon has changed, a GL can hold his own with Superman and run with the Flash... if he has the will to do it. The ring contructs are ready-made for CGI, and invite artistic creativity (which is where I think the last movie went horribly wrong). You have several easy means of limiting him- the 24 hr charge, the condition of his having the will to do so (which would be the dramatic plot device), the vulnerbility to yellow.
And what makes this such a potentially great choice: so much of the Green Lantern stuff is space-oriented. So what if he's black; if he's pitted against Sinestro etc, he's a HUMAN going against ALIENS. As such, audiences can quickly forget about race etc, because he's one of us- the only one of us out there. His 'politics' would be pro-humanity against a hostile and dangerous extra-terrestrial threat.
It's this reason Ripley is appreciated so much in the Alien franchise, not because she's a woman, but because she's a badass human fighting against an alien threat to everyone. She just happens to be a chick.
I guess the problem with this is, it would be too unifying. If you have someone everyone would relate to, it lowers the profits of pushing divisiveness.
If done right, it could be a huge and enduring hit. I mean, we're talking a massively (and uniquely) powerful guy, who is known and established.
Unless canon has changed, a GL can hold his own with Superman and run with the Flash... if he has the will to do it. The ring contructs are ready-made for CGI, and invite artistic creativity (which is where I think the last movie went horribly wrong). You have several easy means of limiting him- the 24 hr charge, the condition of his having the will to do so (which would be the dramatic plot device), the vulnerbility to yellow.
And what makes this such a potentially great choice: so much of the Green Lantern stuff is space-oriented. So what if he's black; if he's pitted against Sinestro etc, he's a HUMAN going against ALIENS. As such, audiences can quickly forget about race etc, because he's one of us- the only one of us out there. His 'politics' would be pro-humanity against a hostile and dangerous extra-terrestrial threat.
It's this reason Ripley is appreciated so much in the Alien franchise, not because she's a woman, but because she's a badass human fighting against an alien threat to everyone. She just happens to be a chick.
I guess the problem with this is, it would be too unifying. If you have someone everyone would relate to, it lowers the profits of pushing divisiveness.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
quote:
J.J. Abrams,
quote:
Bbad Robot
No thanks. Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:21 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Balck people, SJW's and soy homos will see it 5 times each, just to be woke.
If? This is almost certainly going to bomb.
I can't wat to see how it does in the Chinese market, though, if it's even allowed over there. You can't shrink the main character of the movie.
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:31 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:By the waves of SJW's who've taken over the comic industry, which is rapidly failing right now.
But comic book characters get re-imagined in different ways all the time
Posted on 5/5/21 at 3:36 pm to Scoob
quote:
I guess the residue from the failed Green Lantern movie is just too toxic still
Getting an hbo Max series
Page 3 of 4
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News