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THR: Behind Warner Bros.’ Search for a Black Superman

Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:34 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:34 am
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With that, a whole new guessing game has kicked off centered on who will play the Man of Steel. And arguably more pressing: Who will direct? Sources say J.J. Abrams, who is producing the film, is not among the many possibilities being considered. When Warners announced in February that celebrated author Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing the screenplay and Abrams is producing, it did not address the matter of helming. But insiders say Warners and DC are committed to hiring a Black director to tackle what will be the first cinematic incarnation of Superman featuring a Black actor, with one source adding that putting Abrams at the helm would be “tone-deaf.”

In a fitting twist, the director search is pitting DC against none other than Marvel. As Warners looks to fill its Superman vacancy, Marvel is on the hunt for a Blade helmer and is combing through the same list. But the question will come down to what kind of filmmaker Bad Robot and Warners want: an up-and-comer who can be backed by Abrams, who knows his way around tentpoles and franchises? Or an established filmmaker like a Barry Jenkins or a Ryan Coogler?

The former list can include Creed II’s Steven Caple Jr., J.D. Dillard, Regina King — who got raves for her drama One Night in Miami — and Shaka King, who is popular at Warners thanks to best picture Oscar nominee Judas and the Black Messiah. Some potential directors have met with both studios for both films, even as one agent said the process was “phenomenally early.” Meanwhile, Coogler may be a nonstarter for either assignment given that he will be occupied with Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, which releases July 8, 2022.


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While the next Superman will likely land with a name director, the star could be a relative unknown, as was the case when Brandon Routh suited up for Bryan Singer’s 2006 Superman Returns and Henry Cavill donned the cape for Zack Snyder’s 2013 Man of Steel. Neither Superman Returns nor Man of Steel lived up to outsized expectations, with the former earning $391 million worldwide and the latter taking in $668 million. By contrast, James Wan’s Aquaman nabbed $1.15 billion in 2018 and Todd Phillips’ Joker scored $1.07 billion (and multiple Oscars).

But establishing a new tone with the launch of the next Superman franchise is key to Warner Bros.’ DC film future. As such, little will remain of the so-called Snyderverse vision, which enjoyed its last hurrah with Snyder’s four-hour Justice League bowing on HBO Max in March. Among his hand-picked stars that remain are Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), Jason Momoa (Aquaman) and Ezra Miller (The Flash).

The Superman film appears to be moving onto its own track and won’t be part of the universe, as of now. Sources tell THR that Coates is crafting a Kal-El in the vein of the original Superman comics and will have the protagonist hail from Krypton and come to Earth. While the story is currently being crafted and many details could change, one option under consideration is for the film to be a 20th century period piece.



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Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:36 am to
It's why actors choose carefully their roles
That might be a career killer for whoever gets that role and if it doesn't pan out and those movies tank at the box office
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:36 am to
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the star could be a relative unknown, as was the case when Brandon Routh suited up for Bryan Singer’s 2006 Superman Returns and Henry Cavill donned the cape for Zack Snyder’s 2013 Man of Steel. Neither Superman Returns nor Man of Steel lived up to outsized expectations, with the former earning $391 million worldwide and the latter taking in $668 million.

Nice that they cite these as failures and neglect to point out that Christopher Reeve was a complete unknown and launched a hugely successful franchise.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:37 am to
Michael B Jordan seems like a no brainer if you can pull it off
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:40 am to
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That might be a career killer for whoever gets that role and if it doesn't pan out and those movies tank at the box office


If Warner really wanted to get back at Ray Fisher, they could cast him in the lead for Superman.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:40 am to
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Michael B Jordan


At 36, he's a bit too old.

One problem that plagued the Maguire/Garfield Spider-Man series was that they were cast at 27 and 28 respectively, meaning at most they each could have pulled off 2-3 movies before they became 40.

Edit: I was trying to decide if a 26 year old Michael B. Jordan could have worked. (Christopher Reeve was 26 in 1978.) It's weird that between his role as Wallace in The Wire (Season 1) and his first big movie year, 2012 (Red Tails, Chronicle), he really didn't do a whole lot of notable work.

I've never watched Friday Night Lights. Was he role a highlight of the show?
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 10:01 am
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:46 am to
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that putting Abrams at the helm would be “tone-deaf.”



inclusion inclusion....but only women can direct female super heroes and only black directors and direct black lead movies
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Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:54 am to
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That might be a career killer for whoever gets that role and if it doesn't pan out and those movies tank at the box office


If? This is almost certainly going to bomb.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:58 am to
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At 36, he's a bit too old.

One problem that plagued the Maguire/Garfield Spider-Man series was that they were cast at 27 and 28 respectively, meaning at most they each could have pulled off 2-3 movies before they became 40.


I mean 2-3 movies with the same guy playing the character is plenty
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:58 am to
Marvel responds with Henry Cavill becoming the new Black Panther
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 9:59 am to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:02 am to
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I mean 2-3 movies with the same guy playing the character is plenty


We are about to have our seventh movie in 6 years with Tom Holland as Peter Parker. And he's only 24 years old, so it wouldn't seem to out-of-bounds for him to be playing a college student.

If Spider-Man 4 with Toby Maguire had been made, we would have had to accept at 37 year old college student.
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 10:04 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:08 am to
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We are about to have our seventh movie in 6 years with Tom Holland as Peter Parker. And he's only 24 years old, so it wouldn't seem to out-of-bounds for him to be playing a college student.

If Spider-Man 4 with Toby Maguire had been made, we would have had to accept at 37 year old college student.


Again I’m completely fine if we only get 2-3 movies with 1 actor in the same role. I don’t need everything to be a 2 decade universe
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:11 am to
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I mean 2-3 movies with the same guy playing the character is plenty

I agree. I don't want a single actor to be so closely identified with the role that it can't be recast someday.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:13 am to
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But insiders say Warners and DC are committed to hiring a Black director to tackle what will be the first cinematic incarnation of Superman featuring a Black actor, with one source adding that putting Abrams at the helm would be “tone-deaf.”

Well yeah, because it's not like JJ Abrams couldn't direct black people. WTF?

If you can organically hire a black director, then cool. But to shoehorn one in just because they are black, while ignoring better directors just to earn woke points, then you're doing your product (and your fans) a huge disservice.

Also, I love how it's literally "one source." So it's probably not even an "insider at Warners/DC," it's prolly just some random idiot on Twitter.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:14 am to
Getting locked into this “we need an extended universe” mind set is what got DC where it is today from the shite they’ve put out.

Make a cool Superman movie, that’s all ya gotta do I don’t need him to be a life timer in the role
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:16 am to
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Getting locked into this “we need an extended universe” mind set is what got DC where it is today from the shite they’ve put out.

Make a cool Superman movie, that’s all ya gotta do I don’t need him to be a life timer in the role


Completely agree
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:41 am to
so rewrite Kryptonian history to include black people on a now annihilated planet?
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
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Posted on 5/5/21 at 10:49 am to
Just Some Guy says no.

I've watched a lot of his videos, he's a good voice of balance and reason in regards to race relations in nerd culture.


WARNING, NSFW language
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 10:55 am
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