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Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:41 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:41 pm
From a bad. fricking arse cyberpunk visual feast, this is fricking awesome. I love cyberpunk stuff and this delivers such beauty in spades.

In a lot of other areas, it just doesn’t work. But I don’t really care because I loved looking at the movie so much.

There’s a lot of style over substance. They try and cover so much ground that the actual plot feels unearned. This does feel like it should have been a two parter or trilogy. Watching it, you can tell a lot of stuff got cut out and there’s just strange choices. Like I feel like there were multiple scenes were important shots were cut that would clue us in on what’s happening.

And there’s just plenty of other movie errors. For example, the only black guy in Indonesia not being found within 30s while being hunted down in a major city.

Because while there is a human element that works on some level, it is way too front and center to really do anything for the movie when a majority of it is so stupid. I wondered if this movie was foreign a few times because some beats apps rated almost foreign.

Still, this movie is bold. I liked it. You will probably like it too if you’re willing to just go watch lots of action and just move past the pesky melodrama/weirdness
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 10:33 pm
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5398 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:14 am to
I got the same feeling. A beautifully constructed world, but a painfully derivative story. Obvious Blade Runner inspiration. I also got heavy Avatar vibes, even though Avatar was not listed by the director as one of the inspirations for the film. And it feels like this film is AI propaganda. Actually that's one thing I liked, the unsettled question of the AI world's real intentions.

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There’s a lot of style over substance. They try and cover so much ground that the actual plot feels unearned. This does feel like it should have been a two parter or trilogy. Watching it, you can tell a lot of stuff got cut out and there’s just strange choices. Like I feel like there were multiple scenes were important shots were cut that would clue us in on what’s happening.

The first cut was 5 hours long! There will be a substantial director's cut.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18628 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 8:29 am to
It felt like an anime. It was edited like an anime.
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4407 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:46 am to
The fact that Hans Zimmer agreed to do the score actually made me think this movie was legit...
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18628 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:54 am to
It is in its ways
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99735 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:55 pm to
It is a fantastic movie.

Way more emotion/heart than it has any right to have.

Almost right at 2 hours and if it had another 30 minutes I would not have minded at all.

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18628 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 10:19 pm to
I’m glad you liked it.

There is heart in the movie but I don’t think it executed it great
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11909 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 2:02 pm to
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The first cut was 5 hours long! There will be a substantial director's cut.


I watched it this morning. I thought it was fantastic, but you can tell there is more to the story. There are very abrupt location changes that are clearly missing scenes. Give me the 5 hour cut and I’ll watch it like a limited series.

My only complaint was the casting of the villains. Allison Janney is not a believable or intimidating general.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7450 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 5:03 pm to
Wow....what a beautiful but flawed film. There were so many moments that reminded me of the part in Rogue One when AT AT's were attacking the rebels and I'm wondering why are AT ATs being deployed in this situation other than it looks cool... like that but over and over in this film. Just one example....does New Asia have no air defence of any kind?

I still enjoyed it watching it though. Its a great looking movie and it even got me in the feels towards the end but the editing and script could've used some work.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18628 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 5:34 pm to
I don’t think new Asia was as much a real country as it was an underground movement.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7450 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:11 pm to
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don’t think new Asia was as much a real country as it was an underground movement


Yea I didn't get the wolrd they set up at all.. the alternative history set up at the beginning was cool but it was like the only players were the US and what ever New Asia was supposed to be.
I mean it seemed like a large territory where AI and humans had built a well developed cohabitative society with rapid response security forces , including aircraft..that were formidable and competent one minute and totally useless the next scene. And this NOMAD thing just acting with impunity, deploying forces,, blowing the shite out of what ever where ever without anyone taking a shot at it. It was obvious by the end it was extremely vulnerable.

This post was edited on 9/30/23 at 6:18 pm
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14382 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 9:53 pm to
Her character seemed like a joke. This is not a good movie.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 11:03 pm to
Gareth Edwards seems like the king of making movies that look great visually, but have a paper thin plot and characters.
This post was edited on 9/30/23 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8641 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:34 am to
Yeah I'm in between on if I should go see this. A lot of complaints how the plot is thin and the payoff is not earned
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18628 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 7:54 am to
I would go see it just based on the premise that it’s an original movie
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57484 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:07 am to
quote:

The fact that Hans Zimmer agreed to do the score actually made me think this movie was legit...


The score sucks
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14382 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 12:42 pm to
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The score sucks


Agreed. I found it odd just like some of the character choices and dialogue.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57484 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:33 pm to
I listened to most of it and couldn’t help but wonder where the music was
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14382 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 1:57 pm to
Weird songs every time they were driving some sort of vehicle.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 6:37 pm to
They all could have lived if robot toddler didn't try to put the chip in its robot mom.
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