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re: The Rise and Fall of Marvel
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:15 pm to JasonMason
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:15 pm to JasonMason
So they can just sit back and collect checks from Sony. Doesnt sound like a bad deal.
The deal they signed for X-Men games last until 2035. Wolverine is next up
The deal they signed for X-Men games last until 2035. Wolverine is next up
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:23 pm to Corinthians420
Not every game is Marvel's Spider-Man and makes marvel hundreds of millions in royalties. Some get cancelled and never released. Some are failures like Marvel's Avengers that take 5+ years to actually get released.
How much money do you think these marvel games actually make?
How much money do you think these marvel games actually make?
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:24 pm to TygerTyger
The movies suck, yes, but (taking away COVID years) the domestic box office has not been this low since 2001. Families do not want to pay $100+ for a family of four to buy tickets, popcorn, and a drink. They will wait and watch on an 80 inch TV from the comfort of the couch.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:26 pm to Bard
AI is truly going to be the future of superhero movies and entertainment (already happening). It won't be long until we get an Adam West in Batfleck or Bale gear facing off against a Heath Ledger Joker, or Lynda Carter WW joining the Justice League.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:35 pm to JasonMason
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How much money do you think these marvel games actually make?
Marvel Rivals revenue in its first month was estimated at $136 million.
That's all micro-transactions because its a free to play game.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:41 pm to Corinthians420
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Marvel Rivals revenue in its first month was estimated at $136 million.
How much of that do you think Marvel gets? Do you think it's going to go up or down from the first month for the rest of the time? The average player count on steam is down about 85% from its peak. That's awesome that it has $136 million in revenue in the release month but that's probably as high as it will ever be.
It's hard to imagine marvel games ever being as successful as the MCU was in its 10 year run. Development cycles are too long and the payoffs aren't as big.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:48 pm to JasonMason
He’s just moving the goalpost. The thread is about the MCU and he knows this. This is a movie/TV board not gaming. It’s what he does, don’t indulge the disingenuousness.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:49 pm to JasonMason
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It's hard to imagine marvel games ever being as successful as the MCU was in its 10 year run.
I agree. But it isn't hard to see them being more successful than Marvel movies for the next 10 years.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:56 pm to Corinthians420
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I agree. But it isn't hard to see them being more successful than Marvel movies for the next 10 years.
How many triple a marvel games do you see coming out in the next 10 years? How many MCU products?
The first Marvel Spiderman game is the only one I'd put on par with success of the movies. Maybe the second one but it had a bloated budget. The numbers don't work in your scenario unless you think there's going to be a Marvel's Spider-Man type game released every year. That's not going to happen.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:04 pm to JasonMason
according to many on this board marvel has lost $100s of millions on the movies they've released this year, so as long as Rivals has turned a profit at all it has made more than the movie division.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:10 pm to Corinthians420
I don't know the money involved in the licensing deals. Marvel is making money. They aren't losing money on these deals I'd assume. However the royalties and minimums they'd make from these games combined would be overshadowed by one avengers movie making over a billion dollars.
Let's say they had a 25% royalty rate on that $136 million. That's $34 million. If that game made 136 million in one month I bet it hasn't touched 100 million again since month 3. It's significantly less than that now. The player base is smaller and new content to purchase only comes out every so often. So let's be aggressive and say they've made $250 million from rivals so far. That's not a high bar to clear and these games don't come out very often. They also don't make $250 million for every triple a marvel game that comes out every 2-3 years.
Let's say they had a 25% royalty rate on that $136 million. That's $34 million. If that game made 136 million in one month I bet it hasn't touched 100 million again since month 3. It's significantly less than that now. The player base is smaller and new content to purchase only comes out every so often. So let's be aggressive and say they've made $250 million from rivals so far. That's not a high bar to clear and these games don't come out very often. They also don't make $250 million for every triple a marvel game that comes out every 2-3 years.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:29 pm to Bottom9
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If I were making a big time movie, AI for CGI would be my first thought. Surely can't be as expensive as paying out of the arse for it during production. I'm sure the Hollywood Weirdos have anti AI CGI and Art clauses with all their unions but f that. Some of the AI videos nowadays are completely insane in realness quality. You need what at most a hundred bucks a month to make some insane shite with some of the video AI stuff.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Completely disagree. The infinity saga had a ton of garbage. Audiences are just fatigued with Marvel right now. I think we've gotten over 50 projects since 2008. But I don't see how movies like Thunderbolts, F4, D&W, Spider-Man, GOTG 3 means things have gone to shite. Those movies are as good or better than most of the infinity saga, IMO.
That's like someone from the north telling people from 337 area code that the north's food is better.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:20 pm to TygerTyger
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There are SO many good movies in the franchise in the beginning. Starting with Iron Man, all the way through End Game there are very few flops, and most of them are excellent, or at least fun.
The Infinity Saga is great because (1) all of the movies are so tightly tied together, and (2) the heroes and some of the villains (Loki) feel like real people with real virtues and flaws. As much as anything, the Infinity saga is about relationships and personal growth. The growth you see in Stark and Romanov is profound. I do get a little perturbed with ScarJo saying Natasha was overly sexualized...she's missing the point that Black Widow would have used her sexuality as a distraction, but with each movie, more of her true character emerges.
I also loved the first seasons of Agents of Shield and Agent Carter. AOS is probably the better show, but I'm a fan of the latter since Captain America is my favorite Avenger, and I'm crushing HARD on Hayley Atwell.
Tips on AOS: After you've seen season 1 all the way through, rewatch it to see what you missed. Also, pay attention to Nick Fury's wardrobe in his second appearance.
For Agent Carter, ask yourself where you're heard the background music for the bridge scene in the last episode of season one.
As for Marvel post-Infinity Saga, I liked Spiderman Far from Home and No Way Home. Outside of that, I think I'd rather watch the weakest of the Inifnity Saga movies 10 times than anything after Far From Home once (or 10 minutes of The Eternals).
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 6:33 am
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:54 pm to HuskyPanda
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Agreed, I couldn't even get my boy to read comics or even watch Marvel/DC animation. There's no interest, but he can tell me everything about his favorite streamers.
My son will sit down and watch them but it’s more of a time waste thing than anything else. He loves Batman though. Batman just transcends generations for some reason. He got into Batman because of the Arkham games though.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 7:55 am to dawgfan24348
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There were definitely some mediocre to outright bad movies certainly more than there had been but that was only one factor in what's killing the MCU
For the Infinity Saga there was a strong sense of a core as well as connectivity between the movies. We knew the two main cores being the Avengers and Guardians. And even with the solo movies we knew or had an idea of what everyone else was up to. We also knew that it was all leading up to something which happened to be Thanos
For this saga, everything has been stretched incredibly thin there's way too many things for the GA to need to watch. The introduction of the Disney+ shows was a terrible idea even if we got some solid ones like Loki.
Also unlike the Infinity Saga there it no central story moving along. Things just seem to happen randomly with mentions of the multiverse and incursions.
There is also no central core here minus the Guardians. The Avengers are gone and there is no Earth team. Wakanda is doing its own thing, Carol is off world, Peter is doing college shite on his own, Sam is on Earth but isn't connected with anyone really at this point, we got the Thunderbolts but they were just introduced, Hulk is somewhere, Thor is off world. Nothing seems connected anymore and most of the GA is clueless on what everyone is doing for the most part.
Great post.
I will add in my opinion the multiverse was a terrible way to go. It can make for one fun movie or side story but as a recurring theme I hate it. It gets confusing and in the end it really makes things not matter at all because there are infinite universes out there. It can also be used as a dumb crutch/cheat code if "this guy here is not available we will just go get another one" type BS
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:53 am to TygerTyger
They should have done a soft ish reboot at the end the infinity saga. You had so much lightning in a bottle that broke right for you to stick that landing, it was just wasn’t sustainable to keep going.
Instead they’ve wandered aimlessly and trotting out characters the general audience just doesn’t care about but they think they can force it because frick you, you’ll eat it and like it.
Just because your original casting was great doesn’t mean people won’t accept new portrayals, they love the character more than the actor. Hell, not everything has to be inter connected or part of a big build up. Why can’t we get a Steve Rodgers solo Captain America set of movies on a different universe ?
They just seem to leave a ton of meat on the bone where every solo movie has to connect to a larger universe. You have tons of villains and stories to tell that don’t have to be part of this multiverse saga.
Instead they’ve wandered aimlessly and trotting out characters the general audience just doesn’t care about but they think they can force it because frick you, you’ll eat it and like it.
Just because your original casting was great doesn’t mean people won’t accept new portrayals, they love the character more than the actor. Hell, not everything has to be inter connected or part of a big build up. Why can’t we get a Steve Rodgers solo Captain America set of movies on a different universe ?
They just seem to leave a ton of meat on the bone where every solo movie has to connect to a larger universe. You have tons of villains and stories to tell that don’t have to be part of this multiverse saga.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:51 pm to TygerTyger
denouement
/da"noo?-mä?'/
noun
The final resolution or clarification of a dramatic or narrative plot.
The events following the climax of a drama or novel in which such a resolution or clarification takes place.
The outcome of a sequence of events; the end result.
/da"noo?-mä?'/
noun
The final resolution or clarification of a dramatic or narrative plot.
The events following the climax of a drama or novel in which such a resolution or clarification takes place.
The outcome of a sequence of events; the end result.
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