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re: 'The Penguin' Season 1 Discussion Thread - Spoilers allowed

Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:11 pm to
Good first ep
Posted by RebelVol
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:12 pm to
I enjoyed it. Hopefully it’ll stay strong through the whole season.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:21 pm to
Great episode. Somewhat Sopranoish. Actually better than I expected.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:23 pm to
Yeah I enjoyed it.

Was almost expecting a Batman appearance as a cliffhanger to get the internet buzzing about the show and to go viral
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:33 pm to
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Was almost expecting a Batman appearance as a cliffhanger to get the internet buzzing about the show and to go viral


From some interviews and reviews I've seen, Batman apparently will never even be mentioned by any of the characters. Which is strange.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:04 am to
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From some interviews and reviews I've seen, Batman apparently will never even be mentioned by any of the characters. Which is strange.

Not really... you have a tremendous opportunity here. Gotham has always been portrayed as a dark, corrupt, crime-ridden city, and the Penguin is perfect to have as a powerful mobster. He should become established and well-entrenched before he even considers some anonymous costumed vigilante; and in reverse, Batman should need him to become something major before he's considered a serious threat.

Done right, the major characters need to have their own backstories before they collide.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:17 am to
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From some interviews and reviews I've seen, Batman apparently will never even be mentioned by any of the characters. Which is strange.
He’s mentioned in the first episode. As good as this is so far, I think it can stand alone without Batman or Catwoman showing up.
Posted by Bama and Beer
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 3:55 am to
Thoroughly enjoyed the first episode and the lengthy preview at the end after credit for future episodes

This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 3:56 am
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 6:11 am to
He's mentioned by a newscaster. In the stuff I saw, they said characters like Penguin, Vic, etc won't make any reference to Batman. Which i hope isn't true, because it would make zero sense. Every drug deal, meeting, or crime taking place at night should have anyone involved worrying about him. Even not seeing the Bat-Signal would be weird.
Posted by RedPants
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:13 am to
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Every drug deal, meeting, or crime taking place at night should have anyone involved worrying about him. Even not seeing the Bat-Signal would be weird.

This. The opening scene of The Batman established this was already widely taking place. Not to mention Penguin himself has already had a couple major interactions with him.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:28 am to
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In the stuff I saw, they said characters like Penguin, Vic, etc won't make any reference to Batman. Which i hope isn't true, because it would make zero sense


Batman is currently helping the citizens of Gotham. He also says it himself that Gotham is a big city and he can't be everywhere. I have no problem with Batman not being involved here.

I enjoyed the first episode. Farrell and Milioti are great and can't wait to see more of them. My only complaint is the cinematography here is very weak. Some scenes just looked cheap to me.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:37 am to
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He's not ready to reveal what those next plans are, and in truth, some of it is predicated on how audiences respond to The Penguin. Yet he feels confident that Bloys, as well as another big wig, Sarah Aubrey, head of Max Original Programming, maintain excitement for what else they can do together. And yes, he does have general guidelines for what that will all be.

One, Pattinson's Batman will stick to the movies, at least for now. That's why Reeves and his team decided not to include him at all in this first series; the show is Oz's story, not to be overshadowed by the Bat. "That's not to say that there would never be an appearance by Batman or Bruce or something like that [on a future series]," Reeves notes. "Lauren and I did speak: Do we want to find a way to get Rob to somehow be in this show? But that was an afterthought."

Speaking to more broad themes, he muses on how Gotham is perennially corrupt. "[It's] the idea that it draws people in the way that it does with Oz Cobb and this idea of trying to grab for the American Dream, the dark side of the American Dream," he says. Each title set in this Gotham world will offer a different shade to that dark American Dream, but Reeves doesn't want it to feel like homework. You don't have watch The Batman to understand The Penguin and you don't have to watch The Penguin to understand the events of The Batman Part II.

"It's more that it's taking place within this same world," he continues. "If you do watch the whole thing, it is an epic narrative and a meditation on the corruption and why Gotham is the way it is. When I talk about the other shows that we're talking about doing, what's exciting is to think about going down another alley that we weren't able to go down with The Penguin and The Batman."

Reeves is now gearing up for the next movie sequel. The script is finished, he confirms, and everyone is preparing to start production next year. He does tease that "there's a period of time" Part II will jump to after the first film and TV series. "Oz does become one of the entry points into the movie," he adds. "I can't tell you where it goes from there, except to say that we're super excited about it."



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Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:38 am to
That was a great episode. Thoroughly enjoyed that.

Colin Ferrel is such a good actor. The scene where he is describing the mob boss in his old neighborhood as a kid is so good. I know they showed most of it in one trailer, but it was a really good scene. Falcone's son messed up laughing at him.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:07 pm to
Decent but all over the place.
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:47 pm to
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Somewhat Sopranoish.


That’s exactly what I was thinking and I wasn’t expecting it all. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. I guess I finally need to watch the new Batman movie.
Posted by cssamerican
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:02 pm to
This was way better than I thought it would be, I’m hooked, can’t wait for the next episode.
Posted by UnSmitty_Bop
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 7:12 pm to
Enjoyed the hell out of it, Cristin Millioti so fuvking sexy
Posted by Gusoline
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 8:23 pm to
I liked the twist that the entire maroni thing was a setup. I didnt think at all he was just using it as an excuse to plant the ring. I guess Oz could have played it different if maroni had gone along with it, but I'm betting he knew he would het told to F himself before he went in, and even picked the " wrong table" intentionally to make sure it started off sour.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:24 pm to
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He should become established and well-entrenched before he even considers some anonymous costumed vigilante;

What? Did you even watch the Batman and the events leading into this show? Of course they know about him and are scared shitless at this point

That said, I thought this was great. The kid adds that comedic relief and Colin is amazing as Penguin once again
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 11:28 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34942 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:48 pm to
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Was hoping for 10 episodes but I'm already all in on this.



This is the new reality for any half assed decent show with an ounce of production value. 8 or so episodes every 2-3 years.

frick consumers.
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