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re: The Pacific on the History Channel
Posted on 2/8/21 at 9:54 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 2/8/21 at 9:54 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Was Sledge's friend, Syd Phillips, really in Leckie's unit? Or was that literary license?
No. At least he was never mentioned in Leckie’s book.
There a few things that were clearly just license like Leckie and Sledge meeting on Pavuvu. The two never actually met. I also, doubt the exchange between Basilone and Leckie’s unit on Quadalcanal ever took place.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 9:56 am
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:34 am to RollTide1987
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. It tried to do too much and should have focused on one unit the way Band of Brothers did
Understand what yu are saying in regards to telling a story, it is way harder to get familar or attached to the characters in the Pacific with the jumping around. Problem is how much source material is their of veterans. I mean Sledge fought on Peleliu and Okinawa not around the Pacific. Plus all that source material is written from the perspectives of the author not about a unit like BoB. I still think that it is always compared to BoB and found lacking. If there was no BoB this series would be considered a masterpiece.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:48 am to JS87
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The Pacific on the History Channel
Its a shame you're watching it for the first time on History channel, and missing out on Leckie's Australian girlfriends sweet rack.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:24 pm to Tackle74
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Problem is how much source material is their of veterans.
There is plenty of source material from veterans of the European Theater, too. The creators of Band of Brothers wisely decided to narrow their focus to a single unit despite all of those great stories from other units that were out there.
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I mean Sledge fought on Peleliu and Okinawa not around the Pacific.
Easy Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th PIR fought in France and were involved in combat operations for less than a year. We were in the war for just under four years when it was all said and done. I don't see what point you're trying to make with this. If the creators of Band of Brothers can create a 10-part miniseries based on the book of the same name by Stephen Ambrose, the creators of The Pacific can create a 10-part miniseries based on With the Old Breed by Eugene Sledge. You don't have to try to tell the entire story of the Pacific War.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:09 pm to rebelrouser
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Poor man's version of BoB. Not nearly as good
Why can't some people just watch a show and enjoy it without comparing it to others and possibly looking for reason to dislike it?
I enjoyed both. End of commentary.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:43 pm to RollTide1987
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You don't have to try to tell the entire story of the Pacific War.
That didn't happen with The Pacific though
Posted on 2/8/21 at 4:15 pm to JS87
Better than Band of Brother IMO
Marines had it bad, way worse than on the European front.
Marines had it bad, way worse than on the European front.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:29 pm to TigersnJeeps
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prefer the back stories of the items and the collectors on AP.
Please.
There's zero closure on AP when you get
"Estimated" sale price and profit.
Back stories and collectors? Both are painfully uninteresting.
At least you get to see actual value/profit with the items bought and sold and you get somewhat of an expert appraisal of the items pawn stars
You get none of that with AP plus the 2
main characters have zero personality
I get it though.The show has minimal cost or overhead and all the timelines are condensed into every show.Plus there's idiots out there who actually watch the garbage.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:42 pm to BillyGibbons
I love the Pacific. It truly gave me an appreciation as to what my Grandfather went through and why he never bought anything Japanese in his life.
I remember driving up to his house in my new girlfriend’s (now my wife) Isuzu Rodeo - while he didn’t say anything out loud because of her, he gave me a look from hell.
He would never talk about his service, even to both his boys (who both served as well). He stayed a service man himself until he eventually retired.
The sacrifice those men did are unparalleled. Period.
I remember driving up to his house in my new girlfriend’s (now my wife) Isuzu Rodeo - while he didn’t say anything out loud because of her, he gave me a look from hell.
He would never talk about his service, even to both his boys (who both served as well). He stayed a service man himself until he eventually retired.
The sacrifice those men did are unparalleled. Period.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:33 pm to JS87
No way they show the original HBO version on H
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:41 pm to jchamil
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That didn't happen with The Pacific though
It didn't but not from lack of trying. The whole point of following three main characters in there different units was so they could encapsulate the Pacific War into one, 10-episode arc. They did this by showing us four of the most famous battles of the Pacific War (Guadalcanal, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa) while giving us a lesser known battle (New Britain) as a bonus.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:34 pm to RD Dawg
Whatever.
On the few times i watched Pawn Stars, it was repetitive - I want $10k, i'll give you $800, ok lets shake on $1k.
Some of the items on Pawn Stars were interesting but seeing a room full of memorabilia, a rebuilt town, a collection of vehicles is more interesting to me.
Each to their own.
On the few times i watched Pawn Stars, it was repetitive - I want $10k, i'll give you $800, ok lets shake on $1k.
Some of the items on Pawn Stars were interesting but seeing a room full of memorabilia, a rebuilt town, a collection of vehicles is more interesting to me.
Each to their own.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 10:59 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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BoB will always be the superior series, but it's nice that people who may not have HBO will have the opportunity to check out the follow-up series.
I think BoB superiority is in its consistency and continuity simply because it's limited to Easy Company as portrayed in Stephen Ambrose's book.
The Pacific is put together from an amalgam of works by Sledge, Leckie, and other memoirs and battle histories. It's nevertheless very well done, IMO.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:12 am to Tackle74
My dad joined the Army in June 41 and got out in August 45 and was in the PTO. He didn't talk much about his war experiences but I do remember he would have nightmares from time to time and would always say, "damn Jap was trying pull a gunny sack over my head".
He did mention one time about a couple guys in his group that were gold teeth collectors and would just shake his head and get a blank look on his face. Something I'll never forget.
Hail to the Greatest Generation.
He did mention one time about a couple guys in his group that were gold teeth collectors and would just shake his head and get a blank look on his face. Something I'll never forget.
Hail to the Greatest Generation.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:25 pm to JS87
quote:I thought the series was excellent. The book companion - by Ambrose's son - is an abomination.
The Pacific on the History Channel
Really good so far.
The night time Japanese charge was incredible.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 2:25 pm to JS87
I was living at a place off nicholson when it came out in 2010, and the 4 of us plus our 4 gfs always crowded around the tv every episode. I had actually never saw BoB until I saw the DVD cover laying on the table one day. I think that was the first series I ever binged from start to finish. The four of us got pretty heated over which was better, but I remember one roommate, a history major, explaining nothing more than the difference in tone being the reason that they were so different. He made me realize(along with reading Sledge's book) how this differing perspective made The Pacific such a great series. Over the years I have watched it again once or twice and appreciated it so much more.
War is hell, and in BoB, the military did what it had to do with expected results. TP gave me a new perspective of how different the Pacific theater really was, and when it came down to it, you had to fight fire with fire. I think this simple reason alone is why so many people didn't like it as much at first.
Watching sledge go from scared, yet courageous to just indifferent and getting a heavy dose of PTSD had much more impact on me as a person than any particular scene in BoB. And damn, you mean SNAFU the cajun was Rami Malek? Sidney grew up about an hour from here and turns out was only one of the few still alive to give the Burns doc and HBO's writers the material of a soldier's life in that war. He did marry Mary Houston btw, and Sledge was his best man
EDIT: Damn it man, I google info yearly about the BoB/TP crew doing the series about the air battles over europe, and they need to come on with that shite!
War is hell, and in BoB, the military did what it had to do with expected results. TP gave me a new perspective of how different the Pacific theater really was, and when it came down to it, you had to fight fire with fire. I think this simple reason alone is why so many people didn't like it as much at first.
Watching sledge go from scared, yet courageous to just indifferent and getting a heavy dose of PTSD had much more impact on me as a person than any particular scene in BoB. And damn, you mean SNAFU the cajun was Rami Malek? Sidney grew up about an hour from here and turns out was only one of the few still alive to give the Burns doc and HBO's writers the material of a soldier's life in that war. He did marry Mary Houston btw, and Sledge was his best man
EDIT: Damn it man, I google info yearly about the BoB/TP crew doing the series about the air battles over europe, and they need to come on with that shite!
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:09 pm to GetEmTigers08
quote:Yep. I also thought they showed the roller coaster ride of R and R better in The Pacific.
He made me realize(along with reading Sledge's book) how this differing perspective made The Pacific such a great series. Over the years I have watched it again once or twice and appreciated it so much more.
War is hell, and in BoB, the military did what it had to do with expected results. TP gave me a new perspective of how different the Pacific theater really was, and when it came down to it, you had to fight fire with fire. I think this simple reason alone is why so many people didn't like it as much at first.
Watching sledge go from scared, yet courageous to just indifferent and getting a heavy dose of PTSD had much more impact on me as a person than any particular scene in BoB. And damn, you mean SNAFU the cajun was Rami Malek? Sidney grew up about an hour from here and turns out was only one of the few still alive to give the Burns doc and HBO's writers the material of a soldier's life in that war. He did marry Mary Houston btw, and Sledge was his best man
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:45 pm to JS87
Are they ever going to make one about pilots in WW2?
Posted on 2/11/21 at 9:13 pm to GetEmTigers08
Sledge’s homecoming sequence was so moving and almost had me in tears.
1. Sledge enters house and hugs his mom
2. Sledge’s night terrors
3. Sledge goes hunting with his dad
The musical score in the Pacific was spot on as well.
1. Sledge enters house and hugs his mom
2. Sledge’s night terrors
3. Sledge goes hunting with his dad
The musical score in the Pacific was spot on as well.
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