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The Pacific on the History Channel
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:53 pm
Really good so far...Band of Brothers vibe.
You can definitely tell Spielberg and Hanks had a hand in producing.
You can definitely tell Spielberg and Hanks had a hand in producing.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:57 pm to JS87
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Really good so far...Band of Brothers vibe.
haha....yeah
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:58 pm to JS87
This is the first time I've known the History Channel to play The Pacific.
BoB will always be the superior series, but it's nice that people who may not have HBO will have the opportunity to check out the follow-up series.
BoB will always be the superior series, but it's nice that people who may not have HBO will have the opportunity to check out the follow-up series.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:03 pm to JS87
Rewatched this on Amazon recently. Better than I remembered it. Real quality TV.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:12 pm to JS87
The History Channel also had an interesting documentary on about World War II before the airing of The Pacific. I'm surprised that they've actually been showing a lot of history on the History Channel today instead of 50 Ancient Aliens and Swamp Pickers episodes. Not sure if this is an aberration or if they've decided to reverse course lately.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:16 pm to JS87
Instructor: What happened, Sledge? You find out Bob was drilling your girlfriend, Dave wouldn't give you more handjobs, what? You shot outside the correction!
Sledge: I thought you said drop 2-5, sir.
Instructor: You thought?! Aw, for Chrissakes, if you don't know, you ask, 'say again to your corrections, sergeant!' You've got artillery shrieking overhead, machine gun fire, so you yell it, you scream it if you have to, because you just killed two of your best friends, while Tojo and frick-Face over there continue to hose our line!
Sledge: I thought you said drop 2-5, sir.
Instructor: You thought?! Aw, for Chrissakes, if you don't know, you ask, 'say again to your corrections, sergeant!' You've got artillery shrieking overhead, machine gun fire, so you yell it, you scream it if you have to, because you just killed two of your best friends, while Tojo and frick-Face over there continue to hose our line!
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:17 pm to Bench McElroy
American Pickers would fit into the classic History Channel line-up, especially once they started to de-emphasize the scripted elements.
Pawn Stars would be nice if they didn't have Chumlee, the comedic foil goofball and eye-rolling scripted dialogue in the back office scenes.
Pawn Stars would be nice if they didn't have Chumlee, the comedic foil goofball and eye-rolling scripted dialogue in the back office scenes.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 7:54 am to JS87
I watched it when in premiered in 2010 and was expecting it to be BoB. It didn’t live up to that back then but I recently started a rewatch after listening to Dan Carlin’s super nova in the east series and reading Bob Leckie and Eugene Sledge’s books. I have a much better appreciation for what those guys did and it makes the show better.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 8:57 am to JS87
Poor man's version of BoB. Not nearly as good. The writing especially got weaker.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:21 am to rebelrouser
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Poor man's version of BoB. Not nearly as good. The writing especially got weaker.
They’re just totally different stories. BoB was based on Stephen Ambrose’s book by the same name which details the experience of members of Easy company of the 101st Airborne exclusively.
The Pacific, on the other hand, used Eugene Sledge’s, “With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa“, Bob Leckie’s, “Helmet for My Pillow”, and the second hand accounts of John Basilone’s experiences. All three men were in different regiments of the 1st Marines which makes it much more difficult to blend into one cohesive story.
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:51 am to BillyGibbons
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All three men were in different regiments of the 1st Marines which makes it much more difficult to blend into one cohesive story.
Which is why they should have chosen one of the three to focus on instead of focusing on all three. As awesome as Basilone was, his story was the least interesting of the three, so that leaves Leckie or Sledge. Personally I found Sledge's character arc, as well as the men surrounding him, to be the most interesting. I'd have focused almost exclusively on Sledge.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 10:28 am to JS87
Here is an oddity as reported by LSU alum Rod Dreher who grew up near Merrill Shelton (Snafu) in St Francisville and knew him and his family. He lived on hwy 61 and raised his family there. Later that home became the home of the Baton Rouge serial killer Derrick Todd Lee. Crazy.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:05 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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American Pickers would fit into the classic History Channel line-up, especially once they started to de-emphasize the scripted elements.
What a God awful show.
Cannot believe HC continually spews out that garbage and people actually watch it.
Pawn Stars is heads and shoulders a better show even with Chumlee.
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:12 pm to JS87
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Band of Brothers vibe
And people called me crazy when I said godfather 2 had a godfather vibe
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:37 pm to JS87
Great show. You have to re-watch it to really understand the characters because of how the series skipped around. BoB had better continuity because it followed the same people from Ep.1-10. I felt like the Pacific had better emotional gravity than BoB.
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 7:09 am to RD Dawg
I prefer the back stories of the items and the collectors on AP.
Never liked pawn stars....
Never liked pawn stars....
Posted on 2/8/21 at 7:23 am to JS87
As long as you don't go in comparing it to BoB (hard, I know), then you'll really enjoy the series. The last couple of episodes gave me legit nightmares. I can't even begin to imagine what those men went through. I read Sledge's book after I watched the series and it was brutal. Just unrelenting fear and death in a meat grinder.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 8:54 am to RollTide1987
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Which is why they should have chosen one of the three to focus on instead of focusing on all three
The Pacific was an entirely different theater and was therefore not something easy to tell 1 units story. BoB set in Europe and with a unit that once it got to combat was engaged over the course of around a year in various "battles" it is set in mid 1944-May 45. The Pacific was telling the story of the Pacific War. Soldiers on Guadacanal fought a vastly different war then those in Iwo or Okinawa. None of the characters fought from early in the war until the ending battles. In reality the show is on par, as far as showing what the lives of soldiers were like. It obviously is not as deep and moving because it does not follow a unit from training until the end of the war for them. They could have made a fictional unit for the Pacific but no units in the Pacific would have been real to that story. I prefer they stayed accurate to real stories and did not go Hollywood.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 9:35 am to Tackle74
It's been a long time since I read both "Helmet For My Pillow" and "With the Old Breed" (required reading if you were in the Marines). Was Sledge's friend, Syd Phillips, really in Leckie's unit? Or was that literary license?
Posted on 2/8/21 at 9:43 am to Tackle74
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The Pacific was an entirely different theater and was therefore not something easy to tell 1 units story.
The European Theater of Operations was an entirely different theater as well.
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The Pacific was telling the story of the Pacific War. Soldiers on Guadacanal fought a vastly different war then those in Iwo or Okinawa. None of the characters fought from early in the war until the ending battles.
That's why it underwhelmed. It tried to do too much and should have focused on one unit the way Band of Brothers did. The ETO wasn't just western Europe. It encompassed North Africa, Sicily, Italy, southern France, and a few other lesser known places. The soldiers who fought in Easy Company during Bastogne had a far different experience from the soldiers of Patton's II Corps at El Guettar in Tunisia. Same thing with Easy Company's experiences in Normandy compared to those of the 7th Army at Monte Cassino in Italy.
We had been fighting in Europe since 1942 and yet we do not pick up the story of Easy Company until June 1944. You could have done the same thing with Eugene Sledge and his unit when they joined the war in September 1944. It also helps that the two battles Sledge fought in with the 1st Marines (Peleliu and Okinawa) were arguably the two worst battles of the Pacific War.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 9:45 am
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