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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)

Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:52 pm to
We can always throw you in one and you can tell us.

There is one like Gargantua only 27000 light years away.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:29 pm to
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It's a challenge for him to explore and find Brand.
It's not a challenge. It's an impossibility that everyone gets but you.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:30 pm to
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It's not a challenge. It's an impossibility that everyone gets but you.
And the writer of the movie.

You still didn't answer any of my questions.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 8:31 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:35 pm to
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Yea, I'm not for a sequel at all. But I think that's what we're suppose to get from the ending. The idea that he'll be exploring.


No, it's te idea he's going to Brand, and that's it. He knows exactly where he's heading, and that's through the wormhole and to Brand.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:36 pm to
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My question... Is there really a black hole in space that you can go to & go to the future & past?


It's possible. We truly don't know what lies in a black hole.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:36 pm to
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No, it's te idea he's going to Brand, and that's it. He knows exactly where he's heading, and that's through the wormhole and to Brand.
Keep telling yourself that and not answering my questions.
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So if the wormhole is still open, why would Cooper need to steal a spaceship? Why not just go on one of the ships going to Brand's planet? It takes away from Cooper's challenge at the end of the film. It makes no sense that he would have to steal a ship. That's the whole point of the end of the movie. It's a challenge for him to explore and find Brand. Otherwise, all he has to do is hitch a ride on one of the spaceships on the way to Brand's planet.

At the end of the movie Murph says about Brand "she's alone, settling in for the long nap". She says she's alone more than once. If there were people helping her set up shop, why would she say she's alone?
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:53 pm to
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You still didn't answer any of my questions.
What questions? Why do you ignore the Saturn thing? You come off as not understanding the movie at all, and pretty stupid. You keep referring to some person and nothing from the movie or science
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Why do you ignore the Saturn thing?
What Saturn thing?
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What questions?
The ones in the post you responded to. You seem mad, man. I'm sorry the movie is not what you want it to be.
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You keep referring to some person
You mean the person who wrote the movie we're referring to?
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:55 pm to
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What questions? Why do you ignore the Saturn thing? You come off as not understanding the movie at all, and pretty stupid. You keep referring to some person and nothing from the movie or science


Have to agree. I've explained it, but it seems to go over his and Champaigne's head.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:56 pm to
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I've explained it.
Where? Quote it.

Nowhere in this thread is the answers to these questions. That's why I asked them. These things just don't fit if the wormhole is open.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 9:03 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:05 pm to
Ok, who says the humans are actually going there to truly settle? They've solved human extinction already and are spread out. Sure they may eventually go there, but they may just send small missions to plant crops there and whatnot, and that's it, and they're taking their sweet time getting there knowing Brand will be cryogenically frozen for decades. Plus, what if they've sent out missions to the other 9 planets to see if they can be settled on? There are variables here that would make sure they're not in a rush to get there.

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At the end of the movie Murph says about Brand "she's alone, settling in for the long nap". She says she's alone more than once. If there were people helping her set up shop, why would she say she's alone?


I just really think you missed the point of this movie. I've explained to you about 10 times that Brand just sent the signal, but you ignore it.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 9:08 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:11 pm to
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Ok, who says the humans are actually going there to truly settle?
Actually most of the pro wormhole posters.
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They've solved human extinction already and are spread out. Sure they may eventually go there, but they may just send small missions to plant crops there and whatnot, and that's it, and they're taking their sweet time getting there knowing Brand will be cryogenically frozen for decades. Plus, what if they've sent out missions to the other 9 planets to see if they can be settled on? There are variables here that would make sure they're not in a rush to get there.
All of those things are possible if the wormhole is closed. They could be looking for a new one. Why would they not be? If you're admitting that she is in fact "alone" on the planet, that's half the battle. It doesn't make sense that they wouldn't go through the wormhole to Brand if it's open. They would be anxious to get to an actual planet if they knew one was inhabitable. Also Cooper would not need to steal a ship to go there. I agree that they are looking for a wormhole and exploring. That's where the ships are going.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:14 pm to
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I just really think you missed the point of this movie. I've explained to you about 10 times that Brand just sent the signal, but you ignore it.
They didn't say that Brand sent a signal. Why would you assume that? They never said that. As far as missing the point of the movie, how did I? Cooper has his work cut out for him to find a wormhole. He has a connection to Brand and love will find a way, but everything says that the portal is closed.
Posted by DakForHe15man
Member since Sep 2014
1519 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:40 pm to
what would be cool IMO...

Nolan denies for years that there will be a sequel while secretly working on the script for one. In 6 years it leaks that they're will in fact be a sequel with the original cast. Would be awesome.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:44 pm to
Not possible in today's social media. Leave it be. A movie that can stir up this much debate needs to be left alone.

I do think that he will eventually come out and say one way or the other regarding the wormhole. He did as much for Inception when people were debating whether or not

Spoilers for Inception.........













he was actually dreaming at the end. He made it clear that if his wedding ring was off, he's awake.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 9:45 pm
Posted by DakForHe15man
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:02 pm to
inception spoiler below

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he was actually dreaming at the end. He made it clear that if his wedding ring was off, he's awake


Wasn't Michael Caine the one to tell the true ending on like David Letterman or something?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:09 pm to
I always assumed he came out and said something. I think I heard on the radio that he clarified things. I haven't found anything about it yet, but I did find something he said that was interesting. It should make things a little more understandable for Interstellar actually.
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Nolan adds that he tries to leave his movies open to interpretation. “There can’t be anything in the film that tells you one way or another because then the ambiguity at the end of the film would just be a mistake,” he says. “It would represent a failure of the film to communicate something. But it’s not a mistake. I put that cut there at the end, imposing an ambiguity from outside the film. That always felt the right ending to me."
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Which basically means that you can have either interpretation. I bet he doesn't even know the ending to his movies.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35379 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:11 pm to
There is no "true ending" in terms of a definitive "dreaming vs. not-dreaming." There is plenty of evidence to think either way, but we will never know unless Nolan discusses it someday.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13551 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:44 pm to
Y'all are still arguing in here about the ending?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38455 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:49 pm to
Yep, and only one personal attack so far. I'm a little surprised.
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