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re: The Office turns 20 today. That's what she said.

Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:48 am to
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 11:48 am to
The show should have ended when Jim and Pam got married. That was the central plot line that everyone cared about, and when that story finished, there wasn't anything major keeping the show together. Pair this with Michael leaving, and the show really struggled to find a clear direction for a while until it settled on the Dwight and Angela story.

Still though, it was a phenomenal show. One of my favorites.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58993 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:12 pm to
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First four seasons are great.

It started falling off whenever the Michael Scott Paper Company storyline with Idris Elba pops up. Not saying there weren’t funny episodes but it seemed like from that point onwards the writing was throwing everything at the wall to see what stuck.


Season 5 is great, IMO. I think it starts to fall off with the Sabre storyline in Season 6. And I don't even bother with the final 2 seasons.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6978 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Once Michael leaves it takes a major nosedive.


Has a show ever successfully replaced its main character? Seems like a few shows have tried and it just falters. 2 and a half men is another example of a show that just goes to crap after the main actor moves on.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
8151 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:19 pm to
I really enjoyed the arc where Michael started his own paper company
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20923 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:44 pm to
I thought they rallied in the last season and it was pretty good, leading up to the finale, which was really good. I agree that the prior season's after Michael's departure were awful.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
12983 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:45 pm to
I binged watched this about 3 months ago as I had never seen it. Great show!! My favorite episode was probably the one about diversity.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154820 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:53 pm to
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But people that make it their personality take it way too far


Where do you go to meet someone like this?

Only a big penis would do that.


That’s what she said.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 9:16 pm to
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Lawyered

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175923 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:43 am to
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First four seasons are great.

It started falling off whenever

When Michael started dating Pam’s mom and Pam turned into an insufferable bitch for the rest of the series. The Jim and Pam wedding could have been a series finale.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 2:44 am
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:30 am to
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I agree that the prior season's after Michael's departure were awful.


IMO. the worst thing that happened was Ed Helms' success in The Hangover. He was a great "Office character" that was perfect in small doses. They tried to turn him into Michael Scott and it just didn't work.

Actually, I think you could make a case for Andy and Dwight to be "Reverse Flanderized."
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:12 am to
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Sabre


Sab-ray
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3809 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:32 am to
I used to see clips of the show or someone would have it playing in the background when I'd visit a friend.

LINK

I think I found this scene funnier than anything else on the show.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39057 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:01 pm to
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You missed out on all of the "British original was so much better" condescension.


I heard about the UK Office from a friend, like some underground club for those that found it and treated it like discovering a new unknown band.

When the US Office premiered, they treated it like snobs would treat a Cover band.

US version was gonna be a lame sellout facsimile, butchered by Hollywood, so was the view...it was a shock to them that the US version pulled off the heist and made it their own after the 1st season. I prefer the US version for the long haul.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34566 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:07 pm to
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I heard about the UK Office from a friend, like some underground club for those that found it and treated it like discovering a new unknown band.

When the US Office premiered, they treated it like snobs would treat a Cover band.


That is just a British thing, was talking with a friend from London about this very thing. He admitted he was in the camp that the UK version was superior at first but fully admits the american version is actually better.

Just finished watching The Office: Superfan Edition Season 8 Episode 7 "Pam's Replacement" and the jam session with Robert California is just god awful.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175923 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:11 pm to
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IMO. the worst thing that happened was Ed Helms' success in The Hangover. He was a great "Office character" that was perfect in small doses. They tried to turn him into Michael Scott and it just didn't work.

This is all post-Jim/Pam wedding. The entire series for 3 seasons was based on will they/won't they get together. 6 seasons would have been a great run. Make the wedding the series finale.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2774 posts
Posted on 3/29/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Has a show ever been successful after replacing a main character?


2 and 1/2 Men, Spin City, Bewitched...
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11932 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 12:59 am to
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Has a show ever successfully replaced its main character? 


MST3K.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19471 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 5:23 pm to
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Didn’t watch until the Comedy Central years but good show despite terrible character development,

I hope Prison Mike pushes your arse against the wall.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22317 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Has a show ever successfully replaced its main character? Seems like a few shows have tried and it just falters. 2 and a half men is another example of a show that just goes to crap after the main actor moves on.


Criminal Minds replaces Gideon with Rossi but that was after only like one or two seasons I believe
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