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re: The Mandalorian Season 2 Finale Chapter 16 (NOW WITH SPOILERS)

Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:38 pm to
Man, I loved this season is so many ways. The season was great. I watched it with my six year old son because he kept bugging me to watch it. He was so into the story. It was beautiful. He never watched the movies so he was not even aware of the set pieces. He wants to watch all the movies now (he is too young for that for now).
It was a great experience. The creative team gets it. IDGAF about what happened to the latest triology. It did not matter to my enjoyment.

That whole season was pure fun (esp the last 4 episodes).
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Loaner1231
Member since Jan 2016
3903 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:42 pm to
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He wants to watch all the movies now (he is too young for that for now).


6 is too young for Star Wars?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
34886 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:46 pm to
I’m just at a loss at how great this episode (and really this series) has been.

It looks like Star Wars.
It sounds like Star Wars.
It feels like Star Wars.
It just IS Star Wars.

Everyone loves it, new fans, old fans who hated the sequels (and prequels), kids, adults.

“Baby Yoda”
“This is the way”
“I have spoken”

All iconic and now repeatable pop culture references just as “I am your father” and “May the force be with you” were

Just looking at Costco the other day and shelves and shelves of Grogu and Mando merch everywhere.

The sequels were just so, so bad. They were weakly written, over special effected, had confusing storylines, and forced SJW bullshite thrown in for good measure. No one wanted any Rey, BB8, or Rose Tico merch. How did Disney manage to screw it up so bad.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:01 pm to
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R2D2 was even excited to get the kid.


Remember that Ahsoka and Grogu could kind of communicate using the Force. She told us Grogu's name, that he was raised at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, and had been trained by many Jedi Masters by the time Anakin destroyed the temple and Palpatine issued Order 66. Almost all of Grogu's friends and teachers were killed, but someone saved him from the temple and hid him and then his memories get "dark", as Ahsoka says.

What happened at the Temple was the root of the fear and anger Ahsoka saw in Grogu and why she refused to train him. It's also why she told Din to take Grogu to the place the Jedi were founded so Grogu might be able to call a Jedi that would be strong enough to train him.

Looking back, needing someone strong enough to train through anger and fear should have been a GIANT clue that Luke was that Jedi. After all, Ahsoka was Anakin's padawan and managed to survive both the Clone War and the Civil War when Obi Wan and Yoda both failed to do so. Even going through all that, she knew she wasn't strong enough to train Grogu. That doesn't leave a whole lot of options.

Anyway, back to Artoo, he was excited because he RECOGNIZED Grogu. Grogu and Anakin were born pretty much the same time, so they would have been at the Temple together. Artoo was there with Anakin for all those years and certainly would have known everyone at the temple. So, since the destruction of the temple, Order 66, and Luke's birth all pretty much happened at the same time, Artoo would have thought Grogu was dead for Luke's entire life and naturally would have been really happy to see Grogu again after all that time. Grogu also seems to recognize Artoo. When Artoo rolls out from the hallway, Grogu IMMEDIATELY lets go of Din's leg and walks up to Artoo. Only after Grogu and Artoo chitter back and forth does Grogu look up to Luke and reach to be picked up.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 1:13 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:17 pm to
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How did Disney manage to screw it up so bad.



If I were Bob Iger, I'd call Favreau and offer him complete control of the entire Star Wars properties. As soon as he accepted, I'd call Kennedy in for a meeting, and make that bitch sit through a fifteen minute YouTube video of fans crying tears of joy when they realize it's Luke ripping through the Dark Troopers. When it ended, you just look at her, say "You're fired", and have security escort her arse straight out the front door.

Do it on a busy day, too, so all the rank and file get to see her get walked out.

In related news, If Jon Favreau walks into your office and says he has an idea, how quickly do you just sign a blank check and hand it to him? This is the dude that kickstarted the MCU and saved Star Wars, after all.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:53 pm
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
124746 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:36 pm to


I just remember seeing this picture pre Force Awakens after the sequel trilogy was announced and being over joyed about what was to come. You just knew something amazing was in the works...

...and then 3 films later you realize they didn’t even have a story arc for the sequels and made up as they went. What could’ve been.
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
2822 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:52 pm to
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No one wanted any Rey, BB8, or Rose Tico merch.


One of those things is not like the other. BB-8 sold.

The first Rey figures from Hasbro were impossible to find. Arguably because they came with BB-8. Her TLJ figure (just her), on the other hand, was much easier to find... and the TROS figure came with that new droid Dio.

I even own the little remote controlled BB-8 that came out. Its a cool little gadget, people loved the droid merch. And the actual droid they made for the movie is pretty sweet. Its obviously Star Wars while also giving off a more futuristic look.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Blini
Member since Dec 2020
119 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:57 pm to
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If I were Bob Iger, I'd call Favreau and offer him complete control of the entire Star Wars properties. As soon as he accepted, I'd call Kennedy in for a meeting, and make that bitch sit through a fifteen minute YouTube video of fans crying tears of joy when they realize it's Luke ripping through the Dark Troopers. When it ended, you just look at her, say "You're fired", and have security escort her arse straight out the front door.

Do it on a busy day, too, so all the rank and file get to see her get walked out.


That's great. I'm gonna massage that script a little if you don't mind.

Favreau: Thanks, Bob, but I don't wanna hurt Kennedy. I like Kennedy.

Bob Iger: You can’t do that, man. I mean you don’t abuse ’em once in a while they’ll shite all over you. Like sometimes, when they embarrass you in front of your friends, you make 'em watch some YouTube in front of the whole crew. After you show 'em what should have been, you're like, “What am I? Some kind of fricking a-hole? Get your coat on fast and you don’t say goodnight to nobody! You understand me?” That’s to keep them humble. When you don’t let them say goodnight to nobody, they walk out looking at the fricking floor.

Favreau: You're right, Bob. You're always right.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20944 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:27 am to
So, is it possible there's going to be some underlying thread amongst the Jedi going forward to find The World Between Worlds, and address/correct the future crisis?

Obi-Wan; I guess he should be hanging out alone in the desert, communing with Qui-Gon's spirit. That was the path Yoda sent him on.
Now that Qui-Gon is "beyond", does he see the danger ahead?

Ahsoka- she's questing for Thrawn, who's with Ezra, who has been there.

It's a relatively reasonable way out of the mess the sequels made; and even more interesting, it's a concept that could be teased and hinted at for quite awhile going forward.
Lucas said of ESB- you take the heroes and put them in a dark place that looks like nobody can survive, and then the finale you show them rising above it.

This whole sequel trilogy, it puts the heroes in a dark place. Han and Leia fall out, Han is murdered by his own son as Leia's passion (restoration of the Republic) fails utterly. Luke abandons them both, and turns his back on everything, giving up on the Jedi way.
Broken down to bare bones, this reeks of 'apocalyptic dark fate'; something a Jedi would strive to prevent. It seems to have stemmed from the influences of Palpatine's spirit, something a Jedi with insight into the future.
Yoda said "Always in motion is the future".

We've been shown a bad future, one that never sat well with fans from the get-go. So much never made sense. Now, perhaps, we will get a decade's worth of stories correcting that, to the future we hoped for.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22809 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:15 am to
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fifteen minute YouTube video of fans crying tears of joy when they realize it's Luke ripping through the Dark Troopers.


I'm not at that level of Star Wars Fandom, but I do love the franchise. I definitely felt like Luke was redeemed with that simple scene and it just made me that much more pissed at how they shite on his character. She should be fired.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 3:16 am
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
29031 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:24 am to
this show definitely makes me hate the sequels even more...just like clone wars made me hate the prequels more (for doing way more each episode to develop Anakin and Obi Wan than any scene in the movies)
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
6742 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:33 am to
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He wants to watch all the movies now (he is too young for that for now)

He can watch The Mandalorian, but not the movies? I think the movies are probably more appropriate for someone his age than Mando is, outside of Rogue One.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18887 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 7:38 am to
The movies are just too long. I wasn’t comfortable really letting him watch the show but his best friend is 7 and watched it with his parents. Plus my four year old wanted in on the action towards the end so the movies can wait until next year at least.



Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16817 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:22 am to
WTF - I watched Die Hard, Police Academy and Monty Python's Holy Grail at 6
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:35 am to
Well, heck... I though R2 was simply excited because he looked like a little Yoda.
Posted by Mandetyger29
Member since Jun 2018
241 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:39 am to
Awesome episode!!!!

Any ideas on who the Mole is in Mando’s inner circle? Someone who is very close to Mando is definitely feeding Gideon information. Gideon knew he was traveling with Bo Katan, he knew Mando would be alone and go straight for the kid while the women went to the bridge to find him. Will be interesting to see if they explore this in season 3.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
16519 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:48 am to
The blue accountant guy
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51979 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 8:51 am to
it'll be Sasha Banks. She turned heel.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22604 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:30 am to
How into the show was he? Glued to the TV or losing attention and not staying still halfway into it? If he was really into it, a 2 hour movie isn't too long for a 7 year old. And the movies are more PG than the show, except maybe Rogue One (though you should let him watch it anyway just for the Vader ending scene)
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8497 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:42 am to
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6 is too young for Star Wars?


my step daughter hasn't watched any of it and still walked by the TV when i was watching it and said "baby yoda is soo cuuuute"

I asked her where she had seen him and of course she said "at school"
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