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re: The Mandalorian Season 2 Finale Chapter 16 (NOW WITH SPOILERS)

Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Mstate
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:57 am to
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Looking back, needing someone strong enough to train through anger and fear should have been a GIANT clue that Luke was that Jedi. After all, Ahsoka was Anakin's padawan and managed to survive both the Clone War and the Civil War when Obi Wan and Yoda both failed to do so. Even going through all that, she knew she wasn't strong enough to train Grogu. That doesn't leave a whole lot of options.

Anyway, back to Artoo, he was excited because he RECOGNIZED Grogu. Grogu and Anakin were born pretty much the same time, so they would have been at the Temple together. Artoo was there with Anakin for all those years and certainly would have known everyone at the temple. So, since the destruction of the temple, Order 66, and Luke's birth all pretty much happened at the same time, Artoo would have thought Grogu was dead for Luke's entire life and naturally would have been really happy to see Grogu again after all that time. Grogu also seems to recognize Artoo. When Artoo rolls out from the hallway, Grogu IMMEDIATELY lets go of Din's leg and walks up to Artoo. Only after Grogu and Artoo chitter back and forth does Grogu look up to Luke and reach to be picked up.


Very good insight. Thanks. I didn’t think of them actually remembering each other
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:51 am to
R2 had memory wiped?
Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:21 pm to
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R2 had memory wiped?


Im not sure R2 has ever had a memory wipe since we’ve known him. Anakin never periodically wiped him in the war, and I think this ends up being a plot point in The Clone Wars when he is captured.

And in ROTS, only C-3PO is ordered to have a memory wipe for some reason.
Posted by Mstate
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:31 pm to
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I think this ends up being a plot point in The Clone Wars when he is captured.


It is. I just watched this episode. Somewhere back half of season 1
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:44 pm to
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And in ROTS, only C-3PO is ordered to have a memory wipe for some reason.

Ok. For some reason I thought it was both.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:45 pm to
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And in ROTS, only C-3PO is ordered to have a memory wipe for some reason.


Bail Organa takes ownership of the droids. When he does this he orders C-3PO to have his memory wiped. I would assume its so 3PO couldn't accidently mention him undermining the emperor or telling anyone about Luke, Leia, Obi-wan, or Yoda.

George Lucas only had this put in to cover plot holes in his original trilogy if C-3PO never had his memory wiped.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:46 pm to
Re the mole... not really sure. They said there was a tracking device placed in Mando's ship, but that got blown up.
Could the gearshift knob be a bug? That's the only thing that seems to have survived destruction, and now Mando carries it everywhere. Remember, Cold War tech was small enough to stick a bug in a telephone receiver, you'd think Star Wars tech could do it too.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:50 pm to
the bug was in the Razer Crest. thats how they found them on Tython. why do you think there is still a bug?

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Re the mole... not really sure.
they mole was that girl maintenance worker that was show calling in when mando arrived. I thought that was pretty self explanatory.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 12:54 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:56 pm to
If that's the case, R2 will practically do flips when he sees Ahsoka.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 12:57 pm to
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the bug was in the Razer Crest. thats how they found them on Tython. why do you think there is still a bug?
Why was Gideon sitting alone with Grogu instead of on the bridge, and why was he gloating that he knew everything about Mando's plan?

Posted by hth52
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:00 pm to
He was on the bridge when they landed.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:00 pm to
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Why was Gideon sitting alone with Grogu instead of on the bridge, and why was he gloating that he knew everything about Mando's plan?


Mando sent him a warning message that he was coming for grogu... Moff thought there was some tomfoolery going on with the slave 1 chasing their ship coming in for emergency landing. Moff knew he was with others already and it probs isn’t his first rodeo.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:06 pm to
Yeah the droids have been legit and their toys are as well, but nothing about the sequels has inspired anything long lasting. Even the music for the sequel sucked arse.

The prequels each had at least piece of music that will be remembered for decades. Did Poe or Finn even have themes? I will say the music for The Mandalorian is great.
Posted by Mandetyger29
Member since Jun 2018
217 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:38 pm to
But Gideon bragged to Mando about knowing all of his information. He even knew that he used the last of his little rockets that shot out of his arm.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 5:28 pm to
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I may hijack the thread: is there any chance Luke is the Jedi who answers Grogu’s signal from the stone? He’d still be 10-15 years away from his falling out with Ben Solo. What’s he got better to do right now? Not like Mark Hamill is otherwise busy.


Nicely done.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Or will he stay in the middle and use the power to take revenge on anyone that crossed him before?


Jabba's remaining crew leaving him for dead are literally the only ones who ever be described as having crossed Fett and lived to tell the tale.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 5:51 pm to
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Hamill had a voice cameo in another episode.


He's also voiced mystery cameos in all 3 Skywalker saga trilogies. I don't know about Rogue One/Solo.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 5:56 pm to
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I legit teared up

Holy fricking shite


With live-action Thrawn setting up to be the Big Bad for the whole series, now that we have Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc and back in his armor, the only thing left on my SW wish list is for them to make Mara Jade canon.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:08 pm to
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They missed one thing.... Din giving Grogru the knob from the Razor Crest after they set it up with that scene of Din finding it in the wreckage.


I was waiting for Mando to hold it up and Grogu force take it just before the elevator door closed.


#MeToo
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 6:09 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25920 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 6:30 pm to
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The blue accountant guy


Couldn't be.

Moff knew Mando's real name back in season 1 as well as the name's of everyone else in the bar who all fought Moff and his troopers to the death.

It'll be interesting to see how so many questions are answered - if at all.

We know someone took Grogu from the Temple but do we know who hired all those people to protect him in Season 1 where Mando found him to collect the bounty?

Was it the Jedi that rescued him and left him there for protection while they went off to do something else? Did the Jedi that rescued him lose him at some point? How did Moff know who/where Grogu was to have a bounty put on him in the first place?

This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 9:49 pm
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