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re: The DC Studios series Lanterns premieres today, August 16, 2026, at 9:00 p.e. ET.

Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:05 pm to
Lol
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:36 pm to
are we getting any newcomers to the fire James Gunn movement?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 4:50 pm to
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Oh yeah, of course the writer had to make the mama the hero of the episode. His dad was an afterthought and it was like they were emasculating him because he didn't get chosen so mama would make sure her baby got chosen.

It's not the first time Lindelof has done this. He uses black women to promote an anti-white message while pushing black men to the sidelines. He did the same thing in The Watchmen. Regina King was the competent hero. Her husband was completely silent. The black cop in that show was a boy toy for a gay white supremacist.
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Frustrating to me because I thought the episode was really strong if you took out the message. Like there is nothing wrong with a dad having fear for his family when an alien pops in in the middle of the night but why is that Hal's fault and why does Hal have no fear simply because he's white?


Bingo.

This could have been a strong episode if the writer wasn't trying to inject her persecutory fantasy into it along with her bizarre need to over-compensate John for it. He's already an elite sniper, ridiculously fearless, pretty much a master artist but now he also has to be the fricking José Salvador Alvarenga of the Russian wilderness?

Someone needs to clue the writer in on the phrase "less is more".
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:37 pm to
It’s a mystery box filler episode, they always suck. Idiots like Lindelof can’t build character into their stories so they use full episodes to try and get you to like the protagonist. A good writer doesn’t need to do this, you buy into the character’s traits as the story progresses. He shouldn’t have to tell you why you should like his protagonist.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:06 pm to
This episode lost me

I have defended the eyeroll cringe shite

But this is telling me exactly what this show is.

I can't believe I am saying this, but this is at least as bad as Watchmen

Lindelof is so fricking bad at social commentary
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:08 pm to
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Writers using “what ifs” to put their name as a new “creator” of a character.

Just like with Rings of Power

The gall of these a-hole writers, thinking they are good enough to overwrite legends
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:11 pm to
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It’s a mystery box filler episode,
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James Gunn said it’s one of the best of the series
Posted by BoostAddict
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:12 pm to
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This episode lost me


Almost there too man… I’m hanging on by a thread. These shitbirds just can’t help themselves. I guess I”m just nostalgic for Sunday night HBO shows.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:25 pm to
Lo, He also said Flash was the best movie he’s ever seen and called David Lindelof… direct quote

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"close to Satan," a "total scam artist with no integrity whatsoever," and "a liar."


So Gunn is a retard and a liar. His DCU is failing at a level never seen before in the genre.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:26 pm to
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This episode lost me

I have defended the eyeroll cringe shite

But this is telling me exactly what this show is.

I can't believe I am saying this, but this is at least as bad as Watchmen

Lindelof is so fricking bad at social commentary

Yeah, I gave the show the benefit of the doubt with thinking that the diner conversation was mostly harmless banter. Episode three wasted no time telling me "but wait, that was just the appetizer." Lindelof is only able to tell stories about black people if there involves a victimhood narrative. He beats his audience over the head with cliche after cliche of black oppression and white superiority. It's a Hollywood thing as much as it is a Lindelof thing. It's like they can't comprehend that actual, normal black people exist in the world outside of their liberal bubbles.
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:33 pm to
I planned to catch up over the weekend, but if this is where the show is going, I won't waste my time.
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Posted by Flats
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:34 pm to
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Yeah, I gave the show the benefit of the doubt with thinking that the diner conversation was mostly harmless banter.


Seriously? "White men with money can do whatever they want" didn't tip you off?
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 6:56 pm to
That diner scene was a woke wet dream. I laughed my arse off at how obvious it was and got nothing but downvoted for clowning on it. And then they went and TOTALLY outdid themselves with this gem of an episode. This is Gunn trying to get DC their “Black Panther.”
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:17 pm to
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Seriously? "White men with money can do whatever they want" didn't tip you off?

That isn't a true statement? Most anyone with money can do what they want.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:20 pm to
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That isn't a true statement? Most anyone with money can do what they want.


So why not just say “the rich and powerful can do anything they want?” They weren’t being subtle about it so I’m not a bit surprised it got worse.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:39 pm to
Holy shite. That has to have been written by a white guilt white woman to be that over the top.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:51 pm to
Now that you mention it, the victim narrative is very female coded

I would not be surprised to find out a woman wrote it.
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:55 pm to
If you ever get a chance and have time, go back and read the actual comics when John got his ring. It was less whiny than this nonsense.
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