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re: The changing landscape of Hollywood in the AI and anti-woke worlds
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:38 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:38 am to ProjectP2294
There are also some copyright issues presented by large-scale copying of other author’s works that are not yet resolved. I’m not sold on the AI thesis at this time.
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:57 am to Decatur
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There are also some copyright issues presented by large-scale copying of other author’s works that are not yet resolved. I’m not sold on the AI thesis at this time.
Interesting. I hadn't even considered this angle before. Good point. Technology or no technology, artists' intellectual property deserves to be protected. And really, it deserves to be protected even more so in an era of AI.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:46 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:Tell me you don't have a creative bone in your body without telling me...
I have ZERO sympathy for Hollywood. This is just like automation changing manufacturing. They need to adapt or get real jobs.
I seriously doubt that you have the perceptiveness to appreciate art, much less the creativity required to produce anything more artistic than buttered bread.
"They need to adapt or get real jobs." We're not talking about turning wrenches on an assembly line.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:56 am to DarthRebel
I don’t even like electronic music because it lacks a human element. I refuse to knowingly watch any movie or show created by AI.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:13 am to SCLSUMuddogs
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I don’t even like electronic music because it lacks a human element. I refuse to knowingly watch any movie or show created by AI.
Same. And I'm sure a lot of people will feel the same way. I have too much respect for the creativity and diligence it takes to produce such works to allow myself the indignity of being mindlessly entertained by something that a computer algorithm cranked out instead of an actual human being who poured their heart and soul into it.
I'm quite sure there will be a market for AI works. But I'm also sure there will always remain a sizable market for art and stories created from scratch by human beings.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:26 am to DarthRebel
It is refreshing to see people here fully embracing the retention of the human element, but I still go back to the inevitable nature that will occur. The normal simpletons who want everything their way and right now (younger people) will drive it forward. It will evolve and advance rapidly to where it may even be impossible to tell.
We have already gone through these transitions though, and none of us put up a fight really. The consolidations of movie studios lead to less diverse movie offerings, and we accepted it. Sit-com and drama television was replaced by cheaper to make reality TV. We all accepted it, even if we hated it.
Maybe and hopefully, it can be a hybrid of both worlds. The trust and popularity of our entertainment industry is at a all-time low, change needs to happen. Possibly the competition from another force can redirect their creative minds to let them take chances again.
Going back to what one poster alluded to, yes this will occur first with pornography. That industry always seems to lead the technical revolution, which is a bit scary. While I am not saying go watch porn, watch closely how that industry evolves the AI offerings, Mainstream entertainment will follow them by 2-5 years.
We have already gone through these transitions though, and none of us put up a fight really. The consolidations of movie studios lead to less diverse movie offerings, and we accepted it. Sit-com and drama television was replaced by cheaper to make reality TV. We all accepted it, even if we hated it.
Maybe and hopefully, it can be a hybrid of both worlds. The trust and popularity of our entertainment industry is at a all-time low, change needs to happen. Possibly the competition from another force can redirect their creative minds to let them take chances again.
Going back to what one poster alluded to, yes this will occur first with pornography. That industry always seems to lead the technical revolution, which is a bit scary. While I am not saying go watch porn, watch closely how that industry evolves the AI offerings, Mainstream entertainment will follow them by 2-5 years.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:34 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:Not everyone has the chops to be a plant operator.
I have ZERO sympathy for Hollywood. This is just like automation changing manufacturing. They need to adapt or get real jobs.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:37 am to DarthRebel
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It is refreshing to see people here fully embracing the retention of the human element
Agreed. And I really do hope it extrapolates to the general population. Interestingly enough, as polarized as our society is, this is one topic which would unite people of both stripes. The more liberal-leaning art community would naturally be in arms over an AI takeover of the arts. More conservative-minded folks would be more concerned about the inhumanity of AI and what it means for the future.
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It will evolve and advance rapidly to where it may even be impossible to tell.
Agree, but disagree. I don't know what it will look like, but you can bet your bottom dollar that artists who genuinely create their own content "by hand" won't just launch their work out into the ether to compete with AI.
Some kind of marketplace or "certificate of authenticity" will develop for art, stories, movies, etc. created by humans.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:41 am to UGATiger26
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I have too much respect for the creativity and diligence it takes to produce such works to allow myself the indignity of being mindlessly entertained by something that a computer algorithm cranked out instead of an actual human being who poured their heart and soul into it.
I agree with your stance on music, however it is only valid for music created before the 1980s.
Music put out today is more machine than man. I watched a Youtube the other day on how Def Leppard had no idea how to play Love Bites live. That was their top hit from Hysteria
. The song you heard on the radio or tape, did not exist in the studio. Machines, computers and algorithms are already the force behind what we consume today in music. Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:52 am to UGATiger26
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Some kind of marketplace or "certificate of authenticity" will develop for art, stories, movies, etc. created by humans.
This is a good take. Just like hand crafted now carries a premium, "human crafted" will equally carry a premium in art.
I am for sure getting some down votes in this thread, however it is a future path coming and discussions that need to start on how we want to consume it.
It also could come and go, "not with a bang, but a whimper". 10 years ago we thought 3D was the future, 5 years ago VR was going to change everything, 3 years ago AR was so hot. None have truly made their lasting mark.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:59 am to Esquire
quote:I mean if what it makes is good, idgaf if people or bots made it
This sounds like entertainment in a dystopian hellscape
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:11 am to Roaad
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I mean if what it makes is good, idgaf if people or bots made
10 years ago I would be 100% against it, but what is being put out now is pure crap usually. I completely see and understand people defending the human element, however it is hard to defend the recent results. Entertainment needs competition to make a better product.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:15 am to Roaad
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I mean if what it makes is good, idgaf if people or bots made it
It's a fair take, and at the end of the day, to each his own.
But it will be interesting to see how people define "good."
Is LOTR a good story simply in and of itself? Or because we know that a human being like ourselves dreamt it up and took the time and effort to put it to paper? Dunno, but it would be hard to deny that the latter element plays a role in our perception of it as a "good" story.
We've never asked ourselves this question because we've never had to. Nobody in the 1870s had to wonder whether Crime and Punishment was written by a human or by a computer...
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 11:16 am
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:58 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Tell me you don't have a creative bone in your body without telling me...
I do not. And most guys that do are because it belongs to someone else. The Diddy list should make that pretty clear.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:21 pm to UGATiger26
quote:if the content is individualized, it won't matter.
But it will be interesting to see how people define "good"
If you get what you ask for, how someone else views your content will be completely irrelevant.
Kinda like finding your kink on a porn site. You don't care if other people think it is not erotic, or whatever. You like it, so it is good.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 12:36 pm to Roaad
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if the content is individualized, it won't matter.
I don't see how that addresses my question.
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If you get what you ask for, how someone else views your content will be completely irrelevant.
Kinda like finding your kink on a porn site. You don't care if other people think it is not erotic, or whatever. You like it, so it is good.
See my first post in this thread.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:17 pm to DarthRebel
I want to go outside and play.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:09 pm to DarthRebel
To me, writers that can create a great story, and produce great dialogue are the key to any great movie. I know that we don't know the limits of AI, but I doubt that AI will ever produce a great story and great dialogue.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:21 pm to DarthRebel
so you’re upset about the lack of originality but want computers to regurgitate an amalgamation of things you like?
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:08 pm to SammyTiger
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so you’re upset about the lack of originality
That is a thing we are living with now, so yes.
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but want computers to regurgitate an amalgamation of things you like?
I think you would be amazed how creative people can be, given the right tools. A big thing people are not embracing, AI is not a replacement of the human mind, but rather a tool to help expand the range of it. That goes down a much deeper hole that is beyond the scope of the Movie/TV board. It is a larger conversation than that of the tech board as well, or Politics or gaming. Well beyond the levels of the OT. Chicken should probably start up an AI board, because 2025 is going to be interesting and 2026 will be transformational.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 8:17 pm
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