re: The Boys Season 4 Discussion: Diabolical! **Spoilers OK**

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How tf is Noir alive, and now he speaks?

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He's dead. They put someone else in the suit, that's the joke. He even asked if killing people is something they often do.

And I gotta say it. I am tapping out of this show. I can't take every freaking IP turning into horseshite right now. Will see how the season goes and pick it up when there's not some dude taking a dong up the butt or making a mockery of 50% of the population.

Some series don't need a 4th season.

I love that he’s hiding the squid in his closet and the squid itself had a little toy The Deep in its aquarium to keep it company

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But didn’t he and Kimiko kiss just last season? It’s been awhile since I did a rewatch

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She basically friend-zoned him last season, saying something to the effect that she loved him like family.

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The Frenchie stuff is out of nowhere for me.

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It didn't really come out of nowhere considering Mallory's grandkids were killed because Frenchie had to save his ODing male lover (he was in a three-way relationship with that guy and the black haired girl).

But with that said, it does still irk me that it seems that every show now has to have a gay relationship in it even though gays only make up what, 7% of the US population? That definitely does get old.

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It didn't really come out of nowhere considering Mallory's grandkids were killed because Frenchie had to save his ODing male lover

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I actually buy Frenchie’s character being down for anything.

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Starlight looks fricking terrible with all that plastic surgery

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She was pretty before, but now she looks like a 50 year old who had her face stretched out to remove all the wrinkles. Mother's Milk looks like a different guy.

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Starlight looks fricking terrible with all that plastic surgery

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Agreed, and it's not like she was some older actress that was on the tail end of her career. She had the "girl next door" look going in the first season which really worked for her. Then she appeared to get a little work done before season 2, and maybe a little bit more before season 3. And then she evidently said screw it with the half-steps, make me look like a female Skeletor for season 4. I just don't understand why people think that much plastic surgery makes them look better.

Watched E2.

Noir talking is bad. Like really bad. Not only does it ruin the character but this show doesn’t need hokey comic relief. I get that they are poking fun at him being dead and replaced him with this asshat but damn.

The gay stuff is so over the top. Good lord. The five twin dudes with Firecracker. Frenchie. That Splinter masturbation scene was just egregious. And yes I know it’s always been in the show and at one point we saw a dude literally climb into a penis. For whatever reason it just feels so much more prevalent this season.

And I do agree that Frenchie being down for anything makes sense. But again it just feels like it’s at the forefront this season when it shouldn’t be.

MM’s look is jarring as well. He looks like a completely different person.

Holy shite. A-train has never made a real save? Have we not seen him save anybody on the show? That adds a new angle to this if most of the saves have been fake. But we’ve literally seen them do superhero shite before and they clearly do have super powers. So why even the need to fake it? I get the angle of crafting saves for marketing purposes but real saves would do the same thing if not even better.

Ashley looks tons better this season. She looked good in that sort of boob shirt thing. Kumiko looks better again this season too.

Deep getting some balls could be dangerous.

Watching Homelander try to be a dad is great. Feels like Anthony Starr is overusing the face twitch this season. He does it like every five seconds with every line of dialogue.

Why does MM hate Butcher so much now? I don’t remember what happened with that? Was it that he didn’t kill Soldier Boy when he should have while he was super up last season?

For some reason it almost feels like a different show completely this season. Between frenchie’s turn of sorts, Starlight’s face, MM’s ozempic, etc. I’m still in on it, but this feels like a step down so far through the first two. Ultimately I'm still glad it’s back on tv though.

The Deep is his own sort of sexuality to be fair

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Why does MM hate Butcher so much now? I don’t remember what happened with that? Was it that he didn’t kill Soldier Boy when he should have while he was super up last season?

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I was wondering about this too. He seemed fed up with Butcher last season but it seems he borderline hates Butcher now, can’t wait to get rid of him, punching him.

I guess he’s tired of Butcher being closed off, lying and manipulating them. Maybe he feels like Butcher has had a death wish, is now getting his death wish fulfilled in 6 months, and sees how this could lead Butcher to become reckless not only with himself but with the others, which could be true. TV show Butcher wouldn’t knowingly get The Boys killed and has shown to care for them, especially Hughie and MM but he might not be as careful or care that they might die as long as he gets Homelander before his timer runs out. And who knows how the tumor is going to affect his brain. He’s already hallucinating

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I thought Sister Sage would be a woke addition to the show but she’s been a nice, cunning villain so far. I wonder if she’s eventually the one that comes up with a plan to get rid of Homelander. I don’t expect her to survive the season (HL will def kill her once her plan starts working) but she’s too smart not to have a backup plan or have a plan in place to frick over Homelander in some way.

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That has to be the plan IMO. Something will happen and she will split from HL. She’ll come up with a plan and it won’t work for some reason, and he will kill her or she will die as a result. But then she’ll tell Butcher another way. And the final season will be him essentially on the verge of death and he will V up and kill HL with the help of Ryan IMO. I don’t think they are building up Ryan to have HL accidentally kill him off. He will be one of the only ones strong enough to deal with HL (with some assistance), in a similar vein as Invincible.