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The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988)

Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:55 am
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:55 am
Of Gilliam'a first trilogy, I believe this one gets the least love, but it is by far my favorite.

An old man whose superpower is that he can will anything he believes into existence in the age of reason is a wonderful premise.

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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:24 am to
This movie should have come out 5-10 years earlier.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:32 am to
Still want "the Man Who Killed Don Quixote".
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:19 am to
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Gilliam'a first trilogy
huh?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:44 am to
Munchausen, Time Bandits, and Brazil is the "Trilogy of Imagination"

I had no clue there was a 2nd trilogy, however
Posted by vilma4prez
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:48 am to
Loved this movie.
Also "death" or the reaper scared the crap out of me.

Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:20 am to
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Munchausen, Time Bandits, and Brazil is the "Trilogy of Imagination"

This must be a latent internet thing. They were never considered a trilogy at the time. I suppose TB and BM are somewhat stylistically related, but Brazil is definitely in a world all its own.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:29 am to
I just looked, and the other trilogy is the "Americana" trilogy of Fisher King, 12 Monkeys, and Fear and Loathing (which makes less sense).

Then I saw people tried to create a third "dystopian" trilogy, with debates over his last movie being included (with Brazil and 12 Monkeys)
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 8:30 am
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:41 am to
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This must be a latent internet thing. They were never considered a trilogy at the time. I suppose TB and BM are somewhat stylistically related, but Brazil is definitely in a world all its own.


No, Gilliam considered them thematic trilogies. As in, they share a core theme -- not that they follow the same story chronologically or tie in to each other.

I was just using the creator's words.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 8:42 am to
It suffered badly by being dumped by Columbia in the management turnover circa 1988.

I don’t particular care for it but it is the kind of film I likely would have had more interest in at the time if I knew it existed.


Something like Twelve Monkey has more appeal to me because it was something I saw at release and the time travel nature helps the dated settings work better.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:24 am to
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The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988)
The film that put Terry Gilliam in the driver's seat to direct Watchmen, while hamstringing him at the same time. Munchausen production was so drawn out and overbudget, they put restrictions and a low budget on him for Watchmen.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 11:18 am to
Nobody captured that creepy British nihilistic post-war feel in films better than Gilliam.... And he was from fuking Minnesota.

Always had a very love/hate relationship with his films due to this factor. You can marvel at the talent and originality, while also being partially repulsed by the entire vibe off-kilter beat of everything at all times.

In saying that, these types of films don't even get made anymore... Which is not a good thing for audiences and the advancement of the medium.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:14 pm to
No idea why the down votes. I would put this movie in the same category as Time Bandits (1981), The Dark Crystal ( 1982) Legend (1985) Never Ending Story (1984), Ice Pirates (1984).



Just seems to me that by ‘88 the genre had sort of run its course.

Not a knock at the movie, quite the opposite.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:16 pm to
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As in, they share a core theme
What core theme is shared between them?
quote:

I was just using the creator's words.

No, you seem to be paraphrasing. Is there a link where I can read his explanation?
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:23 pm to
There is a reason Gilliam is the poster child for “production difficulties”.

Munchausen, Brazil, Brothers Grimm, La Mancha…
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

What core theme is shared between them?


Growing up.

Time Bandits represented childhood, Brazil, adulthood, and Baron Munchausen, an elder at the end of life.

That's what I've heard at least. I have no idea if that was the intention while filming/producing them.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:38 pm to
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This movie should have come out 5-10 years earlier.


i would have been 22; honestly i thought i remembered seeing this in like 1982..maybe i'm getting it confused with time bandits.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

I suppose TB and BM are somewhat stylistically related
If this means he wrote both while tripping on the same batch of acid, I agree..
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

What core theme is shared between them?


Time Bandits is the imagination (running wild if you will) of a boy, Brazil is the imagination of an adult man and Munchausen is the imagination of an old man. All these imagination escapades are to escape the uncomfortable daily reality each is facing. I clearly see this in terms of style and tone of the films.

I certainly saw references to this when Munchausen was still new and Gilliam, at times during his career, endorses the idea he thought of them as a trilogy (as well as the Americana trilogy which I will admit I see less support from the films themselves).

This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 2:27 pm to
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All these imagination escapades are to escape the uncomfortable daily reality each is facing.
That is a theme of a bunch of his movies, though.
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