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re: ‘The Acolyte’ Won't Be Kind to the Jedi Says Series Showrunner

Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:12 pm to
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You see that in the last few movies where the good guys are "diverse" and the bad guys are white.


give me examples of this in Star Wars.

Who has been the "good" black guy?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:16 pm to
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Who has been the "good" black guy?


John Boyega
Carl Weathers
Moses Ingram played a "redemption" arc
Lando Calrissian
In star wars fallen order one of the main supporting characters is a black female former jedi
Sal Guerrera played by Forest Whitaker
Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu


Seems like there's always been a black good guy in modern star wars.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:18 pm to
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Who has been the "good" black guy?
Finn

Lando

Mace Windu

Saw Gerrera
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:20 pm to
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John Boyega



Not the main good guy, that was a white person

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Carl Weathers



Again, not the main good guy, that was a white person.

That's like saying George Lucas was woke because of Lando.

Also the main bad guy in Mandalorian is black.

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Moses Ingram played a "redemption" arc



And yet the main good guy is white.

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Lando Calrissian



See above

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In star wars fallen order one of the main supporting characters is a black female former jedi



With the main good guy being white

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Sal Guerrera played by Forest Whitaker



And he's an insane person, by no means a good guy

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Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu



Not even close to being the main good guy

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Seems like there's always been a black good guy in modern star wars.



There's been a black guy in star wars since Empire... the horror. Are you advocating that no black people should be in Star Wars?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Not the main good guy, that was a white person


Still a good guy and still black.

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Again, not the main good guy, that was a white person.

That's like saying George Lucas was woke because of Lando.



Still a good guy and still black.

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Also the main bad guy in Mandalorian is black.



He's more Hispanic than black, but he obviously will be used to check both boxes because people are stupid.


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And yet the main good guy is white.



You're being deceived. Moses Ingram had more screen time than the "main character". She is a black woman.


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With the main good guy being white



Still a good guy and still black.

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And he's an insane person, by no means a good guy


He's considered to be generally good with questionable tactics.




You clearly said black good guy and never said "main". You changed your standard.

Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:30 pm to
So to be clear, you have a problem with tertiary characters because they are black?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:31 pm to
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There's been a black guy in star wars since Empire... the horror. Are you advocating that no black people should be in Star Wars?




Holy shite how'd you come up with that one?


What are you talking about? Where did I say anything about advocating against black characters?


Why are you so racially obsessed? There's something wrong with your brain.


I've been watching entertainment with black characters, both main and supporting my whole life, I've been listening to black musicians my whole life.


It's not me who requires a racial qualifier to watch any show.

This may shock you but...I wasn't involved in the production or casting decisions on any star wars content...
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:32 pm to
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So to be clear, you have a problem with tertiary characters because they are black?


So to be clear, you're trying to put words in other people's mouths, right?

You seem mighty defensive about this. If you want particular races to meet your demands then start paying your dues to the activist organizations currently forcing lesbian kisses into content meant for little children.
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:34 pm to
Lol, sure guy.

I was responding to someone saying that the casting in Star Wars under Disney has been good guy black, bad guy white.

That just hasn't been true.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:06 pm to
He said the good guys are diverse, and you are responding to it as if he said, the only lead is black?

Odd shimmy

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There's been a black guy in star wars since Empire... the horror. Are you advocating that no black people should be in Star Wars?


Well, since nobody explicitly or implicitly said anything like this. . .are you just doing as bit?
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:08 pm to
...but the bad guy in Mandalorian is black.

And lol at acting like "diverse" isn't code. Good try.
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:09 pm to
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I was responding to someone saying that the casting in Star Wars under Disney has been good guy black, bad guy white.

nope, you were responding to a guy that said:

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You see that in the last few movies where the good guys are "diverse" and the bad guys are white.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:12 pm to
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...but the bad guy in Mandalorian is black.

And lol at acting like "diverse" isn't code. Good try.
A bad guy was afro-italiano, yes

Mandalorian isn't the only Star Wars thing in the last few years, and exceptions only disprove rules in VERY small data sets.

And also, he said movies. Mando is not a movie.

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And lol at acting like "diverse" isn't code. Good try.


You lefties and your "OMG it's a dogwhistle!!!!!!!!!!!" hysterics.

You amuse me, so I will allow it.
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:18 pm to
TFA villain: Kylo Ren (white)
TLJ Villain: Kylo Ren (white)
ROS Villain: Palpatine (white)

Solo Villain: Tobias Beckett (white)

Rogue One Villain: Director Orson Callan Krennic (white)
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:21 pm to
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You lefties


lol
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:29 pm to
I said it.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:31 pm to
Where does Admiral Thrawn fit into ya'll racial thoughts?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Where does Admiral Thrawn fit into ya'll racial thoughts?

It's a white actor painting his face blue, isn't it?

Just looked it up. . .dude is extra mondo white

This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 2:42 pm to
People like Kennedy and the wokesters working for her should really focus on Empire oriented shows. Authoritarianism is what they know and believe in and at least the content would be grounded in some knowledge if they wrote from that point of view. Trying to do the Jedi which is based on morals, self control and cohesion with the natural universe is totally foreign mentally for these people.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 3:10 pm to
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It's a white actor painting his face blue, isn't it?

Just looked it up. . .dude is extra mondo white


So, you go by the actor? I guess Darth Vader was half white and half black in the original trilogy since the voice and physical parts were by two different people?

I always considered Thrawn to be blue - he was blue in Rebels and I'm pretty sure he will be in Ashoka.

Anyways, I'll let ya'll get back to ya'll racial musings. I never really gave it much thought in Star Wars before this conversation, since there were so many characters of different species. Yoda, Chewbacca, Jabba, Ashoka, etc. etc. Not to mention the droids.
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