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re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:08 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:08 am to SammyTiger
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that’s blatantly untrue.
I know it hurts. And I know you’re vehement in defending this abomination of a show. But deep down you know it’s true. You just can’t bring yourself to admit it.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:10 am to Darth_Vader
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I know it hurts. And I know you’re vehement in defending this abomination of a show. But deep down you know it’s true. You just can’t bring yourself to admit it.
It’s just not.
SEK claims time and time again that Leslie Headland is a hack and everything she rights is 100% self insert.
And then he’ll back that up with an interview she did where she basically says who she is effects what she writes.
But if you ask anyone to ask how that effects the show, and what exactly that means in the show, they don’t do it, and most of the time it’s because they can’t.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:11 am to Darth_Vader
I like the show. The show is good. You cannot change my opinion. Its bizarre you are trying so hard to convince people they should not like it.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:14 am to Darth_Vader
Like i pointed out, in the Ohantom Menace yoda talks about the Rule of 2. Which in the lore is a policy the sith developed after the fall of their order.
so clearly the jedi have had some interactions with them since the fall of the Sith Order.
and I dont want to say your wrong but it’s worth at least discussing.
it seems like an unforced error, but this show is essentially about a Jedi coverup of some kind. There is a strong possibility they try and keep everything about this Sith on the DL.
so clearly the jedi have had some interactions with them since the fall of the Sith Order.
and I dont want to say your wrong but it’s worth at least discussing.
it seems like an unforced error, but this show is essentially about a Jedi coverup of some kind. There is a strong possibility they try and keep everything about this Sith on the DL.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:15 am to RLDSC FAN
The force transitioned to female.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:18 am to SammyTiger
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according to what? The source of his age is pretty weak.
according to all canon until they changed it like yesterday
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But that’s also contradicted in the same movie.
You have Ki-Adi-Mindi claiming the Sith have been extinct for millennia, which is a reference to the ends of the Jedi-Sith War.
It's not contracted, it's a major plot point in the movie to show how blinded the Jedi had become to the rising threat to them.
It doesn't make sense when a guy that knows the Sith are there(in the Acolyte) then the same guy says that they've been extinct for a millennia.
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In the same movie Yoda discusses the Rule of 2 which is pretty well established in the Lore as a Sith Policy they developed after the Jedi-Sith War. So clearly the jedi have encountered sith since they went “extinct” or else how would Yoda know about that?
Developed by Bane, the last known Sith, at the end of that war because the Sith's lust for power wiped themselves out. They encounter Darth Maul which reveals to them that for the first time in a millennia, a Sith has revealed himself. He even says "At last, we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi".
At Qui-Gon's funeral, Windu and Yoda wonder what Sith he was, the master or apprentice, recognizing that they had, in fact, returned.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:24 am to JetsetNuggs
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according to all canon until they changed it like yesterday
no what’s the source material that made his age canon.
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Developed by Bane, the last known Sith, at the end of that war because the Sith's lust for power wiped themselves out. They encounter Darth Maul which reveals to them that for the first time in a millennia, a Sith has revealed himself. He even says "At last, we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi".
Ok that doesn’t address the issues,
If Darth Bane is hiding from the jedi, and they think the Sith are destroyed.
How does Yoda know about the rule of 2.
“Always 2 there are. No more, no less. Master and apprentice”
that’s how the sith have operated in secret since their fall. Except Yoda knows this?
How does Yoda know about the rule of 2 if the Sith have been completely hidden the entire time it’s existed?
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:35 am to SammyTiger
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so clearly the jedi have had some interactions with them since the fall of the Sith Order.
So are you saying Ki-Adi-Mundi, in his old age, simply forgot about Darth Zippermouth when he said the Sith had been extinct for a millennia? Or was he lying? If so, why?
And how, with a good number of Jedi, including Masters, confronting this Darth Zippermouth, did the Jedi Council still seemingly know nothing about it even a hundred years later? Did all the Jedi involved in this show simply forget to mention to the Council this dude in black with a red lightsaber trying to kill them? Did they purposely hide it? If so, why would they betray the Jedi Order in such a terrible way. It seems the fact their bitter enemies who had on multiple occasions over the centuries had waged multiple wars, killed countless Jedi, tried to enslave the galaxy, and almost wiped out their order multiple times had returned would be something they’d make sure the Jedi Council knew about.
Again, just one more aspect of how this show is completely disjointed and the plot makes no sense.
And then there is the bad Twin. She’s spent her whole life training to kill Jedi and wanting revenge on them. She’s literally dedicated her life to this single goal. And now all of a sudden, after she finally starts on her life’s mission she’s cast that aside and wants to join her sister with them? WTF?!?
None of this makes any sense.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:35 am to JetsetNuggs
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They encounter Darth Maul which reveals to them that for the first time in a millennia, a Sith has revealed himself. He even says "At last, we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi".
At Qui-Gon's funeral, Windu and Yoda wonder what Sith he was, the master or apprentice, recognizing that they had, in fact, returned.
This is why I don't care about sticking to the canon in a show about star wars.
Imagine a group of villains whose entire goal is to amass as much power as they can by using the dark side of the force, just hiding out for multiple generations.
Darth Tenebrous had to have a master and so on. It's always better to have more content than to not make something because in the past it was said there was no evil for a millennium to make something seem more dramatic when they were filming.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:42 am to Darth_Vader
I am just pointing out the inconsistencies in the Phantom Menace as to whether or not the sith are believed to be truely gone.
1. How does Yoda know about the rule of 2. Canonically that is a policy the sith took up to hade after the fall of their order.
2. Qui Gon believes Anakin is the chosen one destined to bring blanche to the force by defeating the Sith… but if the Jedi believe the sith were already defeated… shouldn’t there have already been a chosen one? And just to keep the timeline of that movie straight, he meets anakin and believes he’s the chosen one BEFORE he knows Darth Maul exists.
1. How does Yoda know about the rule of 2. Canonically that is a policy the sith took up to hade after the fall of their order.
2. Qui Gon believes Anakin is the chosen one destined to bring blanche to the force by defeating the Sith… but if the Jedi believe the sith were already defeated… shouldn’t there have already been a chosen one? And just to keep the timeline of that movie straight, he meets anakin and believes he’s the chosen one BEFORE he knows Darth Maul exists.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:42 am to SammyTiger
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no what’s the source material that made his age canon
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Ki-Adi-Mundi's age was never specified in the movies, but the Star Wars: Episode I Insider's Guide - a computer program released on CD-ROM by Lucasfilm back in 1999 - contained a character profile revealing he was 60 years old when he first met Anakin Skywalker. This therefore established Ki-Adi-Mundi's date of birth as 93 BBY. There's a catch, though; Disney effectively rebooted the canon in May 2014, and the Insider's Guide is no longer canon. It's now viewed as "Legends," a resource that can be drawn upon but also ignored.
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How does Yoda know about the rule of 2.
Yoda is over 800 years old. He also speaks to Darth Bane from a Sith holocron in the clone wars
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:46 am to JetsetNuggs
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Star Wars: Episode I Insider's Guide - a computer program released on CD-ROM by Lucasfilm back in 1999 - contained a character profile revealing he was 60 years old when he first met Anakin Skywalker.
yeah this is what I meant when i said, this is soft canon.
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Yoda is over 800 years old. He also speaks to Darth Bane from a Sith holocron in the clone wars
800 years isn’t a millennium much less millennia, so he was born after the fall of the sith. The Rule of 2 didn’t exist before the fall of the sith.
And The Phantom Menace happens before the clone wars so he knew about the Rule of 2 before he talked to the hologram of Darth Bane.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:53 am to CR4090
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The force transitioned to female.
Clicked on this thread and was miserable just reading the discussion. The usual suspects just arguing for 40 pages with nothing of substance being discussed. Glad I clicked on it though just for this comment.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:53 am to JetsetNuggs
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Ki-Adi-Mundi's age was never specified in the movies, but the Star Wars: Episode I Insider's Guide - a computer program released on CD-ROM by Lucasfilm back in 1999
Now I'm not sure which side you fall on. Are you trying to point out how non established that age was or that a 1999 CD-ROM that 99% of star wars viewers never knew existed is something they shouldn't have ruined?
They literally could've put just about any number in the "program" and it wouldn't have changed anything.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:54 am to SammyTiger
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I am just pointing out the inconsistencies in the Phantom Menace
Pretty much everything about that movie is inconsistencies
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:55 am to SammyTiger
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Legends-era material gave a clear answer to how the Jedi discovered the Rule of Two. The Jedi padawan, Kibh Jeen, had fallen to the dark side and become affiliated with the Dark Force, a dark side religion affiliated with the Sith Order and the Prophets of the Dark Side (a Sith splinter religion) that was headquarters in an ancient Sith temple on Dromund Kaas. Less than two centuries before The Phantom Menace, Jeen discovered the survival of the Sith and the Rule of Two, and he revealed this knowledge to the Jedi before he died. His warnings were noted but not believed until the Invasion of Naboo. Whether they were warned by a fallen Jedi or knew of Bane’s doctrine before the Sith Lord’s death, the Jedi were aware of the Rule of Two before the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:57 am to Corinthians420
It’s literally the pre-Disney established canon
You can think it’s weak, you can not like it, but it’s established
You can think it’s weak, you can not like it, but it’s established
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:01 pm to Corinthians420
quote:Yeah? Like when?
those youtubers SEK posts have claimed a movie/show was gonna be "woke" and suck and been wrong so many times
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Remember the DnD movie boycott over "emasculating" the male characters
Noquote:I don't.
If you have to watch youtubers
quote:I don't 'need' anything, and I never said anything about my interest level.
you need a 1,400 post thread to talk about something
The only one spouting cliches is you. 'REVIEW BOMBED!'
Again, they could all be white males and it would still be awful. 'Bombed in the reviews' is more accurate.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:03 pm to JetsetNuggs
So if you get into Kibh Jeen
he falls to the dark side, fights a Jedi sent by the jedi order and is killed by them
and they teach his story in the Jedi Academy.
But they call him a “dark jedi” because I guess Sith must come from Sith region of the galaxy otherwise they’re just sparkling fake jedi.
jokes aside, this is an in canon encounter with a dark force used who turns to the dark side after living in a sith fortress and it happened in 181 BBY. So we see the Jedi sorta write off a sith before.
why did this discussion die. is it because the canon can’t decide if the Jedi know about the Sith or not?
he falls to the dark side, fights a Jedi sent by the jedi order and is killed by them
and they teach his story in the Jedi Academy.
But they call him a “dark jedi” because I guess Sith must come from Sith region of the galaxy otherwise they’re just sparkling fake jedi.
jokes aside, this is an in canon encounter with a dark force used who turns to the dark side after living in a sith fortress and it happened in 181 BBY. So we see the Jedi sorta write off a sith before.
why did this discussion die. is it because the canon can’t decide if the Jedi know about the Sith or not?
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:16 pm to nicholastiger
Just like we saw with Dirt Brown’s Rachel Zegler pitching a fit because people were laughing at her silly movie and her attitude, we see the same energy with this hard core racist bimbo.
Full on entitlement.
And while it doesn’t really surprise me much, it does surprise me that Disney would think this is a good idea for her to release such a idiot video right smack dab in the middle of her shows release.
She couldn’t even wait till the damn thing was over before taking a massive dump on the entire project.
Full on entitlement.
And while it doesn’t really surprise me much, it does surprise me that Disney would think this is a good idea for her to release such a idiot video right smack dab in the middle of her shows release.
She couldn’t even wait till the damn thing was over before taking a massive dump on the entire project.
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