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re: Star Wars unveils first look of its first trans woman stormtrooper called 'Sister'

Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:33 pm to
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Falls under the part of ‘erasing of cultural touchstones & overwriting the past’.


Well neither of those things happened.

Nothing is erased
Nothing is overwritten
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:35 pm to
if you can convince me that spending the next 10 years of my life crying about wokeness in mainstream culture is gonna make my life better, maybe i'll consider it.

I was taught that worrying about things you can't control isn't productive, it's wasted energy.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Well neither of those things happened.

Nothing is erased
Nothing is overwritten

it is for some people apparently.

it's the same crowd that can't enjoy game of thrones seasons 1-4 because seasons 7 and 8 exist.

i don't understand it either, seasons 1-4 are still the same as they always were and are great.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:46 pm to
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it is for some people apparently.

it's the same crowd that can't enjoy game of thrones seasons 1-4 because seasons 7 and 8 exist.

i don't understand it either, seasons 1-4 are still the same as they always were and are great.


Are you serious? You seriously can't understand how a show was ruined by an all time bad ending? Seasons 1-4 were great television, but season 8 made almost every one of those great story lines irrelevant. Such a bad example to use I can see how people can still enjoy it but I don't know how someone couldn't understand why someone considered the show ruined.

I broke down and did a rewatch, which I swore I'd never do. While I thoroughly enjoyed the majority of the show, seasons 1-4 being four of the best seasons of TV ever, the rewatch didn't change my feelings. You can watch almost every single episode and numerous times throughout just go "yea that ended up not mattering at all."
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:52 pm to
I'm gonna ask a basic question, Sammy, because I'm interested in what your response would be. I'll hang up and listen to y'all fight afterwards.

What would you say the reasons are for why Star Wars went from:

biggest movie IP of all time -------> no main line movie in what will be approaching a decade, multiple canceled streaming shows, and multiple announced, yet canceled movie and tv projects
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:57 pm to
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You can watch almost every single episode and numerous times throughout just go "yea that ended up not mattering at all."

how does it not matter? I watch season 1 because it's season 1.

I'm not rewatching the battle of the blackwater thinking "ok but how did Davos survive this and if he didn't how would Stannis have managed to die to Ramsay in season 6 anyway?"

under your outlook that "what happens later means what happened before didn't matter at all" then what is the point of even living or doing anything?

all of human history will eventually be wiped out so why does it even matter if game of thrones season 8 was good or not? makes no difference

you should learn to appreciate the good things like season 1-4 for what they are.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:00 pm to
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biggest movie IP of all time -------> no main line movie in what will be approaching a decade

I didn't realize not making movies for a decade was a sign that star wars wasn't healthy. this seems like an odd complaint seeing as the last movie came out 5 years ago
Episode VI – Return of the Jedi May 25, 1983
Episode I – The Phantom Menace May 19, 1999
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Episode VI – Return of the Jedi May 25, 1983
Episode I – The Phantom Menace May 19, 1999


Not the same thing. Lucas waited for technology to get better. Disney is waiting for people to like their trash.

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George Lucas admitted that he never actually believed he’d be able to make the Star Wars prequels because he didn’t think that the technology to create the films he wanted would ever exist. However, Lucas was finally convinced that such sensational special effects had finally caught up with his vision thanks to the good people over at ILM.

George Lucas made this admission while talking to Wired for an in-depth and extensive piece on Industrial Light & Magic. Lucas explained:

I never thought I’d do the Star Wars prequels, because there was no real way I could get Yoda to fight. There was no way I could go over Coruscant, this giant city-planet. But once you had digital, there was no end to what you could do.


Care to comment on the canceled trilogy, the canceled Rey movie, the canceled Rangers of the Republic, or the canceled second seasons of Kenobi, Boba Fett, the Acolyte, and Ahsoka?
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:06 pm to
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But once you had digital, there was no end to what you could do.

circles back well to tranny clonetroopers
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:10 pm to
I would say 60% bad writing.

I dont think any of the new characters are people they think they continue forward with. They wanted to do a Rey movie, but we just had 3. So what’s this one about?

I think the issue they have is spending.

The Acolyte was never going to be everyone’s cup of tea, but they spent on it in a way that requires it to be everyone’s cup of tea to be successful. And I think that’s their issue with a lot of Disney projects currently



Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:24 pm to
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how does it not matter? I watch season 1 because it's season 1.

I'm not rewatching the battle of the blackwater thinking "ok but how did Davos survive this and if he didn't how would Stannis have managed to die to Ramsay in season 6 anyway?"


Yea I did not insinuate that every scene in the show doesn't matter and you know that. You're being purposefully obtuse if you're trying to act like large portions of the shows main story lines ended up being useless in the end. I don't feel like having a GoT argument but good lord the main prophecy for the entire show/the prince that was promised (especially for S1-5), literally meant nothing and was forgotten about.

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under your outlook that "what happens later means what happened before didn't matter at all" then what is the point of even living or doing anything?

all of human history will eventually be wiped out so why does it even matter if game of thrones season 8 was good or not? makes no difference


What? Dude I'm talking about a fantasy show with dragons in it, I'm not talking about the meaning of life. My views on how the ending of Game of Thrones effects my thinking of earlier seasons of Game of Thrones does not translate over to my outlook on life in general. You're reading way too much into this

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:28 pm to
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good lord the main prophecy for the entire show/the prince that was promised (especially for S1-5), literally meant nothing and was forgotten about.

what? Jon Snow saved the realm from the Night King by uniting the Wildlings/Dany/the North/the Vale. then he saved the realm AGAIN by killing psycho dany

how did that mean nothing?

without Jon they all die. He did the hard work of getting Dany to come North and fight the Night King with a unified front which allowed Arya to have a chance to kill him
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:47 pm to
Listen, this is a sidetrack

but they subverted expectations so far it was anti climactic.

Arya killing the night king is absolutely a let down. She’s known about him for like an afternoon.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:11 pm to

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Well neither of those things happened.

Nothing is erased
Nothing is overwritten


If this were true, they wouldn't be doing it.

That's the point.

It's called Cultural Marxism, not routine Political Marxism. Yes, it's in the same bucket, yes it comes from the same intellectual thesis and pursuit.

And yes cultural marxism is very much a political endeavor, even if it doesn't happen in the political sphere.

Read a book.



Dude, just answer a simple question:

Why do transgender people have to be written into every new and every old property?

Why?
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 3:23 am to
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If this were true, they wouldn't be doing it. That's the point.


what’s erased?

what is rewritten?

It's called Cultural Marxism, not routine Political Marxism. Yes, it's in the same bucket, yes it comes from the same intellectual thesis and pursuit. And yes cultural marxism is very much a political endeavor, even if it doesn't happen in the political sphere. Read a book.

you didn’t read a book about this.

quote:

Why do transgender people have to be written into every new and every old property? Why?


because trans people exist.

Question for you: What part of Star Wars does this change?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47253 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:32 am to
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because trans people exist.


A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…

It’s inserting modern day social issues for one thing. Star Trek was better suited for these types of subtleties. TNG even went there, 30 years ago.

But this isn’t being done to enrich the saga of SW but more so into indoctrinate the modern audience, the young Disney audience… If I really need to break it down for you I’m already wasting my time.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:03 am to
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It’s inserting modern day social issues for one thing. Star Trek was better suited for these types of subtleties. TNG even went there, 30 years ago.


For you I guess.

quote:

But this isn’t being done to enrich the saga of SW but more so into indoctrinate the modern audience, the young Disney audience… If I really need to break it down for you I’m already wasting my time.


Again, we’re back to “something i don’t like is in this and that means other people might not dislike it with me”

you can break it down all you want your just back to you not liking something and deciding the inclusion of it ruins stuff.

What you can’t do is tell me what this changes or erases.

the idea that we started with 3 movies and then spend 40+ years exploring every minute detail about every background character but apparently everything falls apart the second someone is trans only says something about you.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 5:05 am
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6131 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:06 am to
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And yes cultural marxism is very much a political endeavor, even if it doesn't happen in the political sphere.

Read a book.


"Cultural Marxism" is a boogeyman political term. It is not a scholarly idea.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
77145 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:14 am to
I really want someone like Elon to buy Star Wars and once the ink is dry say “anything Disney creates is non-canon”.

I’m sure when Disney inevitably sells they will have some bullshite in the contract preventing that from happening
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