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re: Star Wars TFA Makes $247M in Opening Weekend; Up To $1B Worldwide
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:21 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:21 pm to OMLandshark
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As I've stated previously, I think from the day it was announced, whether or not the protagonist would be female is actually rhetorical. That's a very organic way to switch things up and we haven't had a female Jedi before. I think just about every filmmaker would have gone with a female protagonist with little hesitation.
Many movies these days are really getting caught up in the girl power movement, but this is not one of them. Rey is entirely believable as a character first and a girl second. She's not out to prove that her sex is worth respecting and can do anything a male can. Katniss for instance just comes off as such an entitled bitch and is cold toward everyone. In many ways Rey is the complete antithesis to Katniss and just works so well.
The fact that Disney bought this franchise shows. Disney has a great respect for female characters and knows how to write them. Aside from maybe Brave, I can't think of a film they've done recently that reeks of the "girl power" movement. Since Belle, they've known how to make strong characters out of these women and not come as condescending in return to their male audience. Rey seems more to be straight out of a Miyazaki movie and that first 4 minutes bonding with Rey is just brilliant for building up her character. Not one line of dialog is spoken by her, and you know everything you need to know about her without saying one word. Kudos to Disney over this.
All of this times a million.
I walked out of the theatre not really noticing that Rey was a woman. She was just a person who found herself dealing with extraordinary circumstances.
That is the sign of great writing for a character.
She reacted how a human would, not how a woman would.
This thread is full of butthurt.
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Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:30 pm to Napoleon
quote:
$228, but close though
Thanks. I could have sworn I said $238. Isn't showing in my post history for some reason.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:It was to be expected when Disney took over. I'm actually surprised that the movie didn't include BBC cuckold porn.
i don't get why it's so hard for some people to admit examples of pandering/forced diversity
But then, we do have 2 chapters to go.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:10 pm to asurob1
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I walked out of the theatre not really noticing that Rey was a woman. She was just a person who found herself dealing with extraordinary circumstances.
What a disingenuous post. It actually proves that you were thinking about it, and rationalized the whole thing.
I think Ridley was great in the role, but your bullshite progressivism is pretty transparent.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:38 pm to blueboy
Okay well this thread is a hot mess right now so let me try to make some head way in it.
First things first, someone said this movie won't do well in China because of the "forced diversity message" (I'll get to that asinine statement later) which is patently false. The two biggest box office draws in China that were American productions were released in the last two years and both featured rather diverse casts: Fast 7 made near $400 million there earlier this year ($40million more than it made in the US) and Transfomers:Age of Extinction pulled in $320 million last year (roughly $80 million more than its US release).
On the low end, TFA will make $200million in China. High end, I can see it at over $400million. I'll play it safe and say it will wind up in the AoE ballpark and say $300million. Add that to the all but guaranteed $700 million that it will earn in the US, and you are looking at $1 billion from two countries alone. This movie is virtually a lock to assume the 3rd overall spot in world history over Jurassic World's $1.67 billion, and has an outside shot of hitting Titanic's $2.19 billion, but I don't think it has the steam to hit Avatar's $2.79 billion.
The earliest I can see any movie taking the number one spot from it is January 29th with Kung-Fu Panda, but if that doesn't take it down, then Deadpool definitely will - after Star Wars has been out for 7 weeks.
Now, as for the "forces diversity message". Episode 1 had two black men, a white teenage girl, and two Scotsmen among its lead and no one whined about diversity then. Episode 2 brought on a New Zealander male and a Puerto Rican male. Oh and I don't know if y'all noticed this, but throughout the OT and PT, there was a female lead (Leia and Padme). Obvious SJW ploy right there!
And in any case, why are you so concerned about the ethnicity of the characters? If it really bothered you, you wouldn't have seen ESB or ROTJ. Hell you wouldn't have seen any Star Wars after the first one. Hell even then, you wouldn't have enjoyed the first one because Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones.
Anyone who is complaining about "diversity" in a Star Wars cast in 2015 is a damn fool. And even if they did add in cast members of a different race, so what? All of the newbies were great in their roles anyways, so what's the big deal? Star Wars has never been about social messages. That's Star Trek. Star Wars is a big fun space epic that's about a family's role in the large galaxy. If you think it is anything other than that, then that's a you problem, not a Star Wars problem.
First things first, someone said this movie won't do well in China because of the "forced diversity message" (I'll get to that asinine statement later) which is patently false. The two biggest box office draws in China that were American productions were released in the last two years and both featured rather diverse casts: Fast 7 made near $400 million there earlier this year ($40million more than it made in the US) and Transfomers:Age of Extinction pulled in $320 million last year (roughly $80 million more than its US release).
On the low end, TFA will make $200million in China. High end, I can see it at over $400million. I'll play it safe and say it will wind up in the AoE ballpark and say $300million. Add that to the all but guaranteed $700 million that it will earn in the US, and you are looking at $1 billion from two countries alone. This movie is virtually a lock to assume the 3rd overall spot in world history over Jurassic World's $1.67 billion, and has an outside shot of hitting Titanic's $2.19 billion, but I don't think it has the steam to hit Avatar's $2.79 billion.
The earliest I can see any movie taking the number one spot from it is January 29th with Kung-Fu Panda, but if that doesn't take it down, then Deadpool definitely will - after Star Wars has been out for 7 weeks.
Now, as for the "forces diversity message". Episode 1 had two black men, a white teenage girl, and two Scotsmen among its lead and no one whined about diversity then. Episode 2 brought on a New Zealander male and a Puerto Rican male. Oh and I don't know if y'all noticed this, but throughout the OT and PT, there was a female lead (Leia and Padme). Obvious SJW ploy right there!
And in any case, why are you so concerned about the ethnicity of the characters? If it really bothered you, you wouldn't have seen ESB or ROTJ. Hell you wouldn't have seen any Star Wars after the first one. Hell even then, you wouldn't have enjoyed the first one because Vader was voiced by James Earl Jones.
Anyone who is complaining about "diversity" in a Star Wars cast in 2015 is a damn fool. And even if they did add in cast members of a different race, so what? All of the newbies were great in their roles anyways, so what's the big deal? Star Wars has never been about social messages. That's Star Trek. Star Wars is a big fun space epic that's about a family's role in the large galaxy. If you think it is anything other than that, then that's a you problem, not a Star Wars problem.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:42 pm to OMLandshark
I agree with most of what you said. Rey was a great character and done well. But I still feel like Kennedy had the wrong intentions.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:54 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
quote:Robots and mindless action with fast cars.
First things first, someone said this movie won't do well in China because of the "forced diversity message" (I'll get to that asinine statement later) which is patently false. The two biggest box office draws in China that were American productions were released in the last two years and both featured rather diverse casts: Fast 7 made near $400 million there earlier this year ($40million more than it made in the US) and Transfomers:Age of Extinction pulled in $320 million last year (roughly $80 million more than its US release).
When the audience gets cucked out by the forthcoming Disney BBC nonsense, the franchise will officially be over.
JJ holds Obama fundraisers in his cushy California home, for frick's sake. This is all expected, as is the shitty writing and lack of originality.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:58 pm to Mystery
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I agree with most of with you said. Rey was a great character and done well. But I still feel like Kennedy had the wrong intentions.
She may have, but it did not show in the film. Abrams was pretty point blank honest when he said the second he was offered the film that he immediately pictures the protagonist as a strong woman. He said that he prefers to write female protagonists over male protagonists. I myself prefer female protagonists when they are done correctly and not preachy. Rey was done perfectly here, as you agree. I really think she will go down as one of the all time greats before it is all said and done. Katniss will not.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 5:12 pm to OMLandshark
I agree with you with Rey. She was awesome. Movie was dope as frick.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 5:19 pm to blueboy
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Robots and mindless action with fast cars.
Your point?
quote:
When the audience gets cucked out by the forthcoming Disney BBC nonsense, the franchise will officially be over.
How pissed where you when you found out that Billy Dee Williams was in Empire? How many times did you say the n word in 1980? Roughly 200-300 times a week? Just ballpark it for me.
quote:
JJ holds Obama fundraisers in his cushy California home, for frick's sake.
Link?
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This is all expected, as is the shitty writing and lack of originality.
First of all, Lawrence Kasdan wrote the movie. Second of all, you do realize that Star Wars is basically a melting pot of Edgar Rice Burrough's works, Buck Rodgers, and a handful of other sci-fi serials and space adventures that George Lucas read as a child right? Hell I mean Darth Vader's design is even a copycat of someone else's idea.
So if your main beef with TFA is with originality, they you need to have beef 4-7 altogether. What's funny is that the only original movies in the Star Wars saga to date are Episodes 1-3 and those are bad, terrible, and mediocre.
I can't wait until I see your reaction to Rian Johnson - one of the best writer/directors in Hollywood - after he does does make something new and original. You'll probably be to busy dropping N bombs and fricking your sister to notice.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 5:30 pm to ReturnoftheMuschamp
quote:Weak sauce.
How pissed where you when you found out that Billy Dee Williams was in Empire? How many times did you say the n word in 1980? Roughly 200-300 times a week? Just ballpark it for me.
quote:Here you go
Link?
And that was just the top result. There are many others.
quote:I am so sick of hearing this. We're not obligated to like it just because someone who wrote shite years ago wrote this. Ridley Scott directed Blade Runner, but guess what? Prometheus sucked. It happens.
First of all, Lawrence Kasdan wrote the movie.
quote:
I can't wait until I see your reaction to Rian Johnson - one of the best writer/directors in Hollywood - after he does does make something new and original. You'll probably be to busy dropping N bombs and fricking your sister to notice.
Don't get too exited, kid. 
Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:27 am to ell_13
Finished weekend at $517MM 
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:15 am to DawgCountry
Actually the estimates were off. Nothing official but.
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Final numbers are still being tallied, but in an interview on Bloomberg Monday morning, Disney chief Bob Iger suggested that the “Star Wars” sequel had come in higher than estimates had suggested. It now appears that the film will have hit a global record of $528 million. Disney originally suggested the film’s global tally would be $517 million, but domestic numbers are higher than anticipated, clocking in at roughly $247 million.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 9:16 am
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:19 am to Mystery
This is why people thought it was silly to post the estimate as fact.
It is actually going to be 247 domestic and it now breaks the record for global launch at 528. Just barely beat Jurassic World.
Would have destroyed it with China though.
It is actually going to be 247 domestic and it now breaks the record for global launch at 528. Just barely beat Jurassic World.
Would have destroyed it with China though.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:21 am to ReturnoftheMuschamp
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but I don't think it has the steam to hit Avatar's $2.79 billion.
I still trip out when I see this number. That's just incredible.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:26 am to RLDSC FAN
Crazy to think with China it would have probably made another 100 mill.
What it is doing to records is more than I thought and I was considered on the high end.
What it is doing to records is more than I thought and I was considered on the high end.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:08 pm to ell_13
Star Wars Final numbers:
$247 Million North America opening (#1, besting Jurassic at $208 Million).
$528 Million Worldwide opening (#1, besting Jurassic at $525 Million) - and Star Wars does NOT include China which gave over $100 Million to Jurassic.
$247 Million North America opening (#1, besting Jurassic at $208 Million).
$528 Million Worldwide opening (#1, besting Jurassic at $525 Million) - and Star Wars does NOT include China which gave over $100 Million to Jurassic.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:43 pm to ell_13
I wish they would have opening in China to extend the world wide record out more. Might have chased $700 with China. I guess now it's all about catching Avatar.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:55 pm to ell_13
What is the break even for Disney?
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:57 pm to mizzoukills
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What is the break even for Disney?
Come again?
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