re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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Still not sure it's OT level but if not it's very close.

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Will see it again Sunday or Monday. But right now I'd rank it 3rd, above ROTJ and below Empire

I like it a lot more than I did when I first saw it.

There is a comic about poes parents that's part of the canon. Luke gives his mom a tree from the Jedi temple. There were 2 and he kept one for himself.

Poe was the best character in the film. Hopefully his role grows. The black dude was lame and Rey is just eye candy. I'm not buy that a 90 lb girl is saving the universe.

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Rey is just eye candy. I'm not buy that a 90 lb girl is saving the universe.

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Well, then you're sexist to be frank. Rey will go down as one of the greatest movie heroines ever. They introduce her with a 3 minute dialog free scene where you find out pretty much everything about her without using a single word. I thought of her as a character first and a girl second. There is no "girl power" message with her. She is a fully realized character from the start, and I think pretty much anyone who would have made this movie would have had a female as its protagonist. Sorry if you're so sexist that you think that someone's sex and muscle has something to do with them having the ability to grasp supernatural powers.

Man, I don't know quite what to think of this one. I enjoyed the battle scenes, the dogfights, and the general gritty feel of the movie (definitely back to the OT feel). But the plot- I mean it was basically a remake of A New Hope with a couple plot devices borrowed from Return of the Jedi (as others have pointed out, acknowledged).

To rehash: a young orphan with some strong potential in the force lives a boring and hardscrabble life on a desert planet. By luck, this individual stumbles on a droid with a very important piece of information which is being hunted by an evil empire. With the help of friends they get back to the resistance/rebel alliance. To their horror, however, they discover that the evil empire (led by an evil masked figure who uses the force to choke officers) are using a massive spherical planet type thing to blow up entire planets (and in fact they do blow some up). They hatch a daring plan involving using X-Wings to attack a fatal flaw in the design, and blowing the planet up. The X-Wings return to the small jungle planet base of the resistance to cheering and hugging. However, the war is not over, because the evil dark lord and his master are still alive. The protagonist leaves to find a powerful Jedi master to help them. Also, this is speculation, but I'm betting the deliberate move to conceal her parents is because she's the child/sibling of certain key characters in the film, one of whom is evil. Sound familiar?

That's just the plot similarities. There are plenty of other non-storyline similarities as well.
-A watering hole full of treacherous and strange looking aliens and a funky band playing in the background.
-Hiding under deck plates in the Millenium Falcon after being boarded.
-Obviously a new R2-D2 type droid who is just as spunky and loveable as the last one.
-Leia in a command post directing the battle
-Plenty of sneaking around the battle station trying to disable some shields
-Han and the gang being captured by storm troopers and rounded up with their hands over their heads.
-Making sure there was a glimpse of the old holograph game, just for old time's sake.
-An evil emperor type who is only seen as a hologram so far.

Other things I disliked:
-Han dying. Really nothing wrong with this, just something I personally disliked since he was my favorite character.
-The female chrometrooper. Why the individuality? The thing I liked most about storm troopers was their complete identical natures and lack of emotion/character. I can buy Finn, since he's an odd-ball in terms of being a storm trooper, but just didn't like the female trooper. Seemed like an unnecessary character device put there to specifically get a "bad female" character.
-Leia. Carrie Fischer's acting was never great, but it's gotten much worse over the years. She was unbearable here.
-That weird alien friend of Han's who helps them out. What was the point of her? The movie kind of dragged here.

What I disliked about episodes 1,2,3 was the focus on advancing the storyline rather than focusing on an interesting plot. This movie successfully avoided that trap, but... it just told the same story a generation later. This is my gripe with J.J. Abrams. He does this every time. The guy is not a good storyteller. Star Trek was the same way. Just a newer, slightly different rehash of the old films/series. He does a great job of bringing the "feel" of older films back to life, and also of awesome visuals and battle scenes, and I genuinely liked several of the characters, but the plot just wasn't there for me. If I didn't love the old movies so much, I probably wouldn't have liked this movie much at all. Sorry, not trying to piss anybody off, and if you liked it, I'm genuinely glad. Just wasn't there for me. That being said, I'll still watch the next one, and hopefully it changes up the story line.

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Well, then you're sexist

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On Tigerdroppings?!?!?!?!

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I mean it was basically a remake of A New Hope

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this is a brand new idea and has not been brought up yet

also they had to play it safe to get everyone back on the bandwagon after the terrible prequels

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this is a brand new idea and has not been brought up yet

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I'm just venting because I'm disappointed. Cut me some slack lol

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I'm not buy that a 90 lb girl is saving the universe.

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Okay, but you do buy a 35 pound lizard man thing being the most powerful of all Jedi?

It's a movie man. I agree with OML's take on your opinion.