re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

Probably the last time I walked out of a movie completely devastated until last week

I actually thought it would be awesome because it was Spielberg and George Lucas with someone to reign him in

I thought last Jedi would be ok, and I walked out even more crushed. Probably because it had a good core that was 30 minutes tops ruined by the rest of the movie that was prequels/crystal skull level slop

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What you're saying is I can't complain about movies no matter what.

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No, there are obviously valid reasons to complain about movies like there is anything else. But saying the movie is bad because people made decisions you say you would not, is generally a dumb criticism.

I would’ve chosen not to have a bloated script and cast

I would’ve chosen to maintain tone

I would’ve chosen to make a good movie

Your argument is dumb

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I would’ve chosen not to have a bloated script and cast I would’ve chosen to maintain tone I would’ve chosen to make a good movie

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Those are fair criticisms, and different altogether.

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No, there are obviously valid reasons to complain about movies like there is anything else. But saying the movie is bad because people made decisions you say you would not, is generally a dumb criticism.

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Have you ever written stories AT ALL? It’s writing 101. Decisions should be rational from the perspective of the characters and always drive the plot forward in such a way that doesn’t lose the audience.

Decisions in stories aren’t just some Willy-nilly “Mr Bean” level shite

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Have you ever seen the original Star Wars??

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Yes, and that was FREAKING OBIWON. In front of LUKE where he could see it to drive home the point of who Vader was.

The point being that Luke was THE HOPE.

He was better than Ben Kinobi, better than Yoda.

They BOTH gave up and DEVOTED their lives to cultivating the HOPE of Luke.

The LAST thing Luke would do would be to off himself in solitude.

Rian was just trying to be cute and make Luke into Yoda not understanding that one of the driving forces of the OT was that Luke was NOT Yoda (OR Ben)

Finally! Half in the Bag:
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Smaller cars get better gas mileage. lol

Okay, I had to sleep on it because the notes I was taking kept piling up. It was bad, but any standard review I give it will only repeat opinions that have been expressed numerous times. Instead, here are my in-game notes (some of which have been expanded upon after the fact), so you can live my Star Wars experience with me.

-editing is choppy, scatterbrained. This is either some clumsy attempt at cinema hypnosis or the editor has serious ADD.

-okay, yes, dropping bombs in space is crazy ridiculous. And what is this halfassed WW2 feel bullshite? Was this just another excuse to have an Asian chick in the movie. (I thought she was Rose at this point, btw).

-Okay, Poe disobeyed orders. Clear breach of command there. The slap doesn't bother me, but the femme SJW intention that I'm sure was behind putting it in the movie does bother me. That's the difference that the "racism/sexism" people on the board don't get.

-why were the bombers there in the first place if they were never supposed to bomb anyone? Wouldn't they have discussed all of these options beforehand? I guess it's just so we can get acquainted with Poe's intentionally idiotic, one-dimensional character.

-tossing the light saber. That was spoiled for me beforehand. It's not that he rejects it. It's the stupid, half gag way he does it that makes it bad. Rian.

-lol at the vegan bullshite with the titty milk. We are definitely being told that drinking milk fro animals is wrong. That is not even debatable.

-holy shite, look at the fricking nose on this chick! Who the frick is that?

-so Leia is dead after 15 minutes. I suppose that's best.

-oh my god. Leia is a mystical space fairy. Holy shite, this is bad. This might be the dumbest fricking thing I've ever seen in film. What was the conversation that went on before this was put into the movie? Wow.

-Ah, Luke finds the space fuzzy dice from the Falcon. Remind me wtf those are. They were just in TFA, right? So, basically, some space fuzzy dice that Disney thought would be cool to have us assume is part of the classic story.

-Oh my god, how much of an obvious nod to colored-hair SJW's is Laura Dern? "Downtrodden and oppressed." Check. Talking down to the man, "flyboys like you." Check. Poe is a "typical man." Check.

-WTF are these frog people wearing pj's? Isn't there a children's book or series of drink coasters with them on it? WTF are these things doing here?

-foreign kids love space critters. (watching the in-theater recording with a spanish audence.)

-horse (or whatever) racing is bad. This message brought to you by PETA.

-so "the only way to get this rich" is by being an emb0diment of evil arms dealer. rich people are evil, except for the fat ugly jewish sex offenders who made this movie. Ain't that right, Harvey? I actually thought she was going to say slavery. If you'd have paused it and taken bets, I'd have gone all in on that.

-frogs think they're people again. Seriously, WTF is this?

-the rebellion is a buncha ugly old ladies. Jesus Christ, look at the fricking nose on this chick. If I was watching this in 3D, she'd have poked my eye out with that thing.

-BB8 gag is cringy and phantom menacy.

-Horsecat escape sequence reminds me of a sequence from another timeless classic, the monkey chase in Crystal Skull.

-so wait, what happened to the slave children? They got saved, right?

-force skyping. WTF is this supposed to be?

-oh my god, did they just do a Twilight shirtlessness sequence with Rey and Ren? LOL. They just defeated every girl power message they had in one shot. "Here, bitches. Have this shirtless, goofy dude." - Disney

-I like the Yoda appearance. Having Yoda frick with Luke is stretching it a bit, but when you think about it, is a perfect way for Yoda to snap Luke out of his funk.