re: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi Discussion Thread ***SPOILERS***

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If you hate this movie you’re not necessarily a Nazi...gee, thanks

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Well, it’s progress.

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I could swear they said that the rebel ships were too small and quick for the first order ships to catch up. Hence them following and waiting them out.

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Leaving the complaints aside, and trying to analyze this and what the plans were:

First Order had bigger, more ships. They held more fuel. They could track in lightspeed and pop right back up on your arse.

Resistance realizes: we're fricked. We can't escape via lightspeed jump, and eventually (they pared this down to NEXT JUMP, but it's the same concept), Resistance uses a jump and burns the remaining fuel, First Order shows up again, blows the ship up.

So, the chase: smaller ships have less inertia, can accelerate and change directions quicker. They can temporarily stay out of range of the bigger ships, but they need to change directions occasionally so the First Order will not catch them. The First Order can probably go faster, but then inertia in a course change will throw them off track again, and out of range. But with no refueling ability, eventually they have you.

So, why not split off at some point, and hope someone gets away? Sure, there are enough FO ships to pursue everyone, but at least it's a shot. Jump to seperate points, hope you can evacuate to a populated area and blend in/grab a ride elsewere, ... something.
Shouldn't you be sending out calls for help right now, trying to find an ally willing to take someone in? Or meet you to put up a skirmish and wisk the braintrust away while the grunts do their duty?

Wouldn't the kamikaze move be among the first things you might consider, once you learn that you're fricked? I mean, blow the flagship up like they did, everyone else scatters and jumps, and you hope in the confusion you get some people clear?

Out of curiousity, why does the fuel issue not affect the Falcon, for that matter? I'm pretty sure Luke doesn't have an Exxon on his planet, and they didn't run out of gas.

Oh, yeah, the casino planet; too bad Leia, Purple Haze and some other leaders didn't go on that mission. Because they were completely untracked, and would have gotten away... hey, instead of a code breaker, maybe we can send ships out to get refueled. Since Finn's ship prompted no pursuit, maybe doing this a couple at a time would work. And then they don't all have to come back, they could just go away...

because the tracking thing is apparently a myth. I mean, Finn leaves the convoy and isn't chased... and then a strange ship comes in, and randomly docks with Snoke's during a big military mission, and nobody gives a frick.

Oh wait, that isn't a random ship, it's like the private yacht for the Boeing CEO. Yeah, nobody notices that, and comes to say howdy (like Snoke- "hey man, love this big ship you gave me, you coming to watch the fun? Wait, who the frick are you?"). Because obviously random First Order junior officers (their "disguise") get to fly around in Bill Gate's personal craft, which would be reported as stolen by now.
Lucky thing the First Order had a droid to figure it out, because nobody in the Radar and Tracking department noticed a damn thing.

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First Order had bigger, more ships. They held more fuel. They could track in lightspeed and pop right back up on your arse.

Resistance realizes: we're fricked. We can't escape via lightspeed jump, and eventually (they pared this down to NEXT JUMP, but it's the same concept), Resistance uses a jump and burns the remaining fuel, First Order shows up again, blows the ship up.

So, the chase: smaller ships have less inertia, can accelerate and change directions quicker. They can temporarily stay out of range of the bigger ships, but they need to change directions occasionally so the First Order will not catch them. The First Order can probably go faster, but then inertia in a course change will throw them off track again, and out of range. But with no refueling ability, eventually they have you.

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At the beginning of the chase I figured that eventually more FO order ships would jump in front of the Resistance, or at the very least the FO would jump past the Resistance, turn around, and jump back right in front of them.

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The FO plan was at least as good as the Nazis as Dunkirk. It was actually much better. It basically worked save the very few that escaped.

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They lost like 95% of their fleet. That plan was retarded. Should have kept sending the TIE Fighters out and destroy them.

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They lost like 95% of their fleet. That plan was retarded. Should have kept sending the TIE Fighters out and destroy them.

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Hitler should have more aggressivly attacked those at Dunkirk. There are plenty of military blunders like this that seemed like great ideas at the time. In TLJ though, the resistance was basically destroyed save a very few.

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Hitler should have more aggressivly attacked those at Dunkirk. There are plenty of military blunders like this that seemed like great ideas at the time. In TLJ though, the resistance was basically destroyed save a very few.

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What is your point with Dunkirk? That's largely seen as one of (if not the) biggest military blunders in human history. This was a major frick-up as well. I don't see why The First Order are all that much of a threat now.

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I don't see why The First Order are all that much of a threat now.

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Cause they are evil and funded by warmongering slavers and capitalist.

You know next movie the first order will just have another massive army with no explanation.

I know Star Wars has never really been a political drama but these should have been. There needs to be a better reason the new Skywalker/Solo regime failed other Luke randomly trying to kill his nephew.

They had the story for it too. Just have outside interest bribing their way into Influencing the government, Ben solo a young Jedi upstart turns to the dark side for profit and before you know it Lela & co become who they hate.

A few days ago Hyperspace Kamikaze ships being more devastating than the death star bothered me the most.

Now it's fuel.
Such a stupid thing to throw in. 10,000 years of space flight and they have no reactors?
Are you now saying Star Trek with it's 300 years of Space flight is now more superior technologically?

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Now it's fuel.
Such a stupid thing to throw in. 10,000 years of space flight and they have no reactors?
Are you now saying Star Trek with it's 300 years of Space flight is now more superior technologically?

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And there is a ship that is currently in operation that can run for 25 years without needing to refuel. 25 years, but they don't have one that can last a week.

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People calling the movie stupid because the FO didn’t do what they would have, is dumb.

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In that case, then I can't complain about anything in movies. Like in "the Day after Tomorrow", they start burning tons of books to stay warm... when there are tons and tons of furniture all around them that they can burn instead. I mean I might have burned a few of the more useless books to get the fire started, but they burn half the fricking library and the knowledge that was contained within. But since I would have burned the furniture, I can't complain about it.