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re: **Spoilers**Anyone wanna talk about EP4-6 leaks from the other subs?

Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:35 am to
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I mean he managed to dodge every single bolt all the ships fired at him despite being at closer range

This is one of the things I wondered about last night. So they have all these scorpions on the front of their ships. And all the ships are facing one direction and are wind powered. Meaning to turn the scorpion the other way is hard due to masts, sails, etc. so why the frick not swing around behind them and burn the whole fleet?
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:37 am to
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Basically the rest of the leaks are Jamie is captured
Tyrion frees him
Jamie kills Euron and is wounded badly Varys is executed
Jamie dies with Cersei
The hound and his brother die in cleganebowl
Arya is useless the rest of the season
Tyrion is tried for treason
Oh and Aegon kills Dany
Bran is the King over a ruling council in the end




I’ve seen a couple different variations such as

Hound mercy kills an already dying Mountain, he then heads off into the country and is last seen building a cottage

Yara kills Euron

Arya has a scene in the throne room but nobody has mentioned what she does there

Keep in mind, the leaks for Ep 4 were out there way before it was confirmed with the clips leaking.

I think these leaks are solid

Varys executed
Tyrion executed
Jamie and Cersei die together
Jon kills Dany

I think the only ones that are really up in the air is what Jon does after and what happens to Bran.

I’m actually fine with all of those, what’s been pissing me off is the execution and setups by D&D. Rheagal scene and missandei scenes are examples of their retardedness
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 10:41 am
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:40 am to
You know why. Most shows and movies don’t always adhere to logic because otherwise the bad guys would lose in an instant. Of course they could write it in a way to make it logical but they won’t.

My problem is those scorpions are freaking cruise missiles. They are being used to neutralize dragons except you know Drogon wrecking shite at some point subverting that.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:40 am to
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The whole Night King storyline was useless. It was completely pointless.


That's a little strong. The threat of the NK provided a ton of conflict. The show without the NK isn't nearly as good.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:42 am to
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This is one of the things I wondered about last night. So they have all these scorpions on the front of their ships. And all the ships are facing one direction and are wind powered. Meaning to turn the scorpion the other way is hard due to masts, sails, etc. so why the frick not swing around behind them and burn the whole fleet?


Can you really afford that risk if you're Dany? No dragons means your war is over.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:47 am to
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The hound and his brother die in cleganebowl
"it's all true"
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Hound mercy kills an already dying Mountain, he then heads off into the country and is last seen building a cottage
So it's not all true?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:50 am to
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I assume Jon takes the black after killing Dany and goes back North? It makes sense given his character being the reluctant leader.




The scene with Tormund & Ghost seemed to strongly foreshadow that.

Jon will be back in the north and reunite with ghost.
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:50 am to
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missandei scenes are examples of their retardedness


what was wrong with missandei scene? i thought they pulled that off great.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:53 am to
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what was wrong with missandei scene?
The entire situation took away from the drama. Why would Cersei not attack there? Not Tyrion who she wants dead but instead we get a repeat of the scene in the red keep from last season. Not Danny and her 50 soldiers who are completely exposed. Or Drogon who isn't moving at all and probably the most vulnerable he will ever be.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:54 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:58 am to
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The entire situation took away from the drama. Why would Cersei not attack there? Not Tyrion who she wants dead but instead we get a repeat of the scene in the red keep from last season. Not Danny and her 50 soldiers who are completely exposed. Or Drogon who isn't moving at all and probably the most vulnerable he will ever be.


Drogon was noticeably removed from the group, presumably to be out of range.

As for why Cersei didn't attack there, it's the same reason why teenagers go toward the scary sound in their basement instead of getting out of dodge.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:58 am to
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what was wrong with missandei scene? i thought they pulled that off great.


As ell mentioned, it didn’t make any sense for Cersei not to end it and kill them all right there.

They staged those two kills in ep 4 all for spectacle without making logical sense within the situation if you ask me.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:59 am to
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As ell mentioned, it didn’t make any sense for Cersei not to end it and kill them all right there.


Cersei could have tried to kill Dany, but to say it would end things isn't true. Jon and an army are still heading her way. Drogon is presumably out of range.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:02 am to
I can be content with Jon going back and living out his days with Tormund in the “real North”


But I would not be OK with Bran being King. That’s just not in his character. It never has been. Plus, there’d be no reason for Jon being Rhaegar’s kid. Sure, it lets Ned off the hook, but what real purpose would it serve for Jon? There could be tension between him and Dany without that ever been a part of the story. Jon being Aegon hasn’t yet impacted the story. I guess it could lead to Varys and Tyrion’s death but that would feel pretty cheap considering Jon being Aegon has been building up for years and years. But I guess so did the Night King and he got a shite ending. Jon probably will too

I really just don’t like Tyrion’s death. It would seem so forced at this point.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:02 am to
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Drogon was noticeably removed from the group, presumably to be out of range.
The visuals certainly don't justify that conclusion based what we had just seen.
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it's the same reason why teenagers go toward the scary sound in their basement instead of getting out of dodge.
No reason. Got it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:03 am to
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Jon and an army are still heading her way
An army too small to make any impact on king's landing. If anything, him going to her makes things easier... way easier than any other alternative.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:03 am to
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Drogon was noticeably removed from the group, presumably to be out of range.


You really expect me to believe that after Euron sniped Rhaegal out of the sky from way way farther and with Rhaegal being a moving target while Drogon is now stationary? K
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:04 am to
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Cersei could have tried to kill Dany, but to say it would end things isn't true. Jon and an army are still heading her way. Drogon is presumably out of range.


In her mind it ends the threat to the throne, she doesn’t know about Jon’s lineage at this point. Sure there’s an army on the way, but the leader of that army would be dead along with her Hand, Varys, and the leader of the unsullied.

And baw, if Euron went 3 for 3 at 1500 yds on a moving Rheagal you don’t think he could headshot a stationary Drogon at 500? Come on
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:05 am to
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it's the same reason why teenagers go toward the scary sound in their basement instead of getting out of dodge.

No reason. Got it.


Well there is a reason - the reason is because they can't die yet. We've still go 2 episodes.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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91838 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:07 am to
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And baw, if Euron went 3 for 3 at 1500 yds on a moving Rheagal you don’t think he could headshot a stationary Drogon at 500? Come on




I know that, I'm just pointing out they had Drogon removed from the group as if to suggest he was out of range. Had he been sitting with them, I'd get the gripe.

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In her mind it ends the threat to the throne, she doesn’t know about Jon’s lineage at this point. Sure there’s an army on the way, but the leader of that army would be dead along with her Hand, Varys, and the leader of the unsullied.


I know she's unaware of Jon's lineage, I'm just giving a half-assed reason why it wouldn't really have mattered. Killing that small group won't decisively win whatever war is still remaining.
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