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Spielberg blames Lucas for IJatKotCS sucking
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:04 pm
Per wwtdd:
Here's anothr article that references SS talking about how it's Lucas who develops the story: LINK
Interesting..
quote:
Steven Spielberg has a interview in the new issue of Empire, and if you hated the idea of aliens in ‘Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull’, you’re in good company, because he did too.
“…I sympathise with people who didn’t like the MacGuffin because I never liked the MacGuffin. George and I had big arguments about the MacGuffin. I didn’t want these things to be either aliens or inter-dimensional beings. But I am loyal to my best friend. When he writes a story he believes in - even if I don’t believe in it - I’m going to shoot the movie the way George envisaged it. I’ll add my own touches, I’ll bring my own cast in, I’ll shoot the way I want to shoot it, but I will always defer to George as the storyteller of the Indy series. I will never fight him on that.”
Here's anothr article that references SS talking about how it's Lucas who develops the story: LINK
Interesting..
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:05 pm to CocomoLSU
If you shoot shite then you bear responsibility for shooting shite. Spielberger is equally guilty for the pile of crap that is CS.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:06 pm to CocomoLSU
He took responsibility for nuking the fridge.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:07 pm to CocomoLSU
I mean, I'm glad that he recognizes that it sucks and all, but to say this
quote:while throwing his "best friend" under the bus is bullshite. Spielberg's hands are just as dirty with this.
But I am loyal to my best friend.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:07 pm to CocomoLSU
Too bad that's just one of the many, many things that is downright God-awful with this movie
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:08 pm to CocomoLSU
I think Steve nuked the fridge well before Crystal Skull came along. I specifically point to the final minutes of AI.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:08 pm to etm512
I take it back. He takes even more blame because he knew it was crap and still filmed it.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:08 pm to TotesMcGotes
I just think it's funny that everyone is coming out now and admitting it sucked...after taking the $800 million to the bank.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:13 pm to CocomoLSU
What the frick is a MacGuffin? I've tried to block most of this movie out of my mind since seeing it in theaters, and it looks like I've done a pretty good job.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:15 pm to Josh Fenderman
quote:
What the frick is a MacGuffin?
It's basically what drives the movie plot.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:16 pm to CocomoLSU
I'll take it to my grave that the aliens were not even close to what made Indy 4 bad. How are magical alien artifacts a big jump from pagan god artifacts? Answer: they aren't. In fact, I think it was a good idea to try something different. Why do all Indy artifacts have to be religious?
The problem with Indy 4 is they took the Indy cheese of the previous movies, ratcheted it up a notch, and it didn't have a cool suave Indy to counter balance it. Instead 65 year old Ford looks gimpy in the action scenes and looks, well, like a 65 year old actor. Spielberg takes some blame for this. He should have seen that without Indy to wink, nod, and impress after a cheesey scene, the movie would become a bit of a trainwreck. He needed to adjust on the fly, and he obviously didn't.
The problem with Indy 4 is they took the Indy cheese of the previous movies, ratcheted it up a notch, and it didn't have a cool suave Indy to counter balance it. Instead 65 year old Ford looks gimpy in the action scenes and looks, well, like a 65 year old actor. Spielberg takes some blame for this. He should have seen that without Indy to wink, nod, and impress after a cheesey scene, the movie would become a bit of a trainwreck. He needed to adjust on the fly, and he obviously didn't.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:18 pm to CocomoLSU
Oh. I was thinking he meant he was calling the aliens Macguffins
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:21 pm to Broseph Barksdale
quote:
I think Steve nuked the fridge well before Crystal Skull came along. I specifically point to the final minutes of AI.
There are lots of mixed opinions on AI, but many of us that like it (and it's ending) see the ending as having darker implications that match any other Kubrick movie. He didn't get what he wanted, he only got what he bought into, that it was his mother. But more like it wasn't his real mother anymore than he was a real boy. Combine that with what he did when he saw the other "David"s and you have a darker commentary than what you get on the surface.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:21 pm to Tigercat
I tried watching this movie when it aired on USA, but turned it off at the scene where shia whips out a knife, and then ford says "Kid I think you just brought a knife....(bad guys whip out guns)....to a gun fight"
gay
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:22 pm to BilJ
then you missed the scene where shia swings on branches for like a cool mile and half and catches up with a moving car.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:23 pm to Josh Fenderman
quote:
Oh. I was thinking he meant he was calling the aliens Macguffins
He was, and it was a cop out. Aliens could have been shown at the end of the Temple of Doom as the originator of the stones and it wouldn't have necessarily made the movie worse. The Aliens at the end of Indy 4 could have been something religious, say Angels, and it wouldn't have made the movie any better.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:24 pm to bbap
Don't forget swordfighting while standing on two moving jeeps
I had never heard that term before. I realize they were the "macguffin" now, I was thinking somewhere in the movie they were referred to as "macguffins."
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Tigercat
I had never heard that term before. I realize they were the "macguffin" now, I was thinking somewhere in the movie they were referred to as "macguffins."
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:26 pm to CocomoLSU
Someone had to hold Indy down while Lucas raped him.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:27 pm to PsychTiger
:inb4youonlysaythatbecausesouthparkdidfirst:
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:36 pm to Josh Fenderman
I have no problem with Aliens. I just think the execution of the plot was horrific. The aliens seemed to be friendly with the surrounding natives yet their ship leaving would have killed any natives around.
The whole death to anyone seeking ultimate knowledge was exactly the same as Lost Ark.
The crazy dude spent months trying to figure out the lock to get into the temple yet Indy figures it out in 15 seconds.
Heck, my main beef with the movie actually has to do with the shoddy direction.
The whole magnetism things was poorly executed. There are numerous scenes of soldiers straining against the magnetic pull, yet the soldier right next to them isn't straining at all.
There are several scenes where the movie shifts from daylight to nighttime and back to daylight.
Per movie mistakes, there were 117 goofs in this film.
There were crazy arse stunts in past movies but this one really was over the top.
Lucas should never be allowed to write again and Speilburger should be ashamed he shot this garbage.
The whole death to anyone seeking ultimate knowledge was exactly the same as Lost Ark.
The crazy dude spent months trying to figure out the lock to get into the temple yet Indy figures it out in 15 seconds.
Heck, my main beef with the movie actually has to do with the shoddy direction.
The whole magnetism things was poorly executed. There are numerous scenes of soldiers straining against the magnetic pull, yet the soldier right next to them isn't straining at all.
There are several scenes where the movie shifts from daylight to nighttime and back to daylight.
Per movie mistakes, there were 117 goofs in this film.
There were crazy arse stunts in past movies but this one really was over the top.
Lucas should never be allowed to write again and Speilburger should be ashamed he shot this garbage.
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 3:38 pm
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