re: Spider-Man No Way Home Discussion - Updated w/Official Trailer - Beware of Variants

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The hype for this movie is insane

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The 70s Superman and 80s Batman movies deserve their respect but for a lot of people the 00s Spider-Man movies and X-Men movies kind of set the stage for what we have now with the MCU and those movies still hold up and were actually good and have a lot of nostalgia attached to them.

Like a lot.


That and the fact that it confirms the Multiverse and the opportunities that it provides for past, present and future Marvel movies, just has a lot of people excited. The potential Multiversal movies, especially Avengers level stuff, could be fricking bonkers.

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You don't understand. Mary Jane, Faye Valentine, Betty Rubble... these are characters that these guys jerked to. That's why they lose their shite when you change the character's appearance.

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This sounded a lot more amusing in your head I'm sure. I really like Zendaya as an actress. Her character in Spider-man isn't great. It's insulting to the long time fans to call her Michelle Jones and then do the whole MJ thing. It's fine if they want to update the story and not include the MJ that fans know and love, but maybe change the name. It's not even just her appearance that's changed. To be honest though, I'm more appalled with the "re-imagining" of Flash Thompson.

That said, I enjoy the movies. We've had enough Spider-man stories at this point to pick out our favorite and least favorite from each iteration. They each have pros and cons.

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In 2020, the bully at a prep school in New York is more likely to be a rich, entitled a-hole, than a overpowering jock.

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Maybe you're right, but I could never see that kid becoming agent Venom for instance. I know the odds are slim we'd ever get there, but a rich nerd doesn't fit for me.

Like I said, I still enjoy the movies, but that's one of my cons for the new trilogy.

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I'm not saying it's definitely Mephisto, but it being someone disguised as Dr. Strange would explain why he's wearing the Eye of Agamotto necklace. I really find it odd for Dr. Strange to be wearing that.


Yep, he doesn’t have it in Endgame

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Thanos crushes it during their battle on Titan.

The Eye of Agamotto isn't like it is in the comics; it was just a conduit for the time stone. That's why when Strange conjures the stone to give to Thanos, it's not inside the necklace.

He's not wearing it because it's in dozens of pieces on the surface of Titan.

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So i originally thought that Loki was the cause of the multiverse due to killing Kang and not dr. Strange’s messed up spell.

Anyone have a clue of how both caused the multiverse?

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I don't think Strange "caused the multiverse" but rather broken down the barrier between the MCU and other universes. In this case, because he was casting the spell for Spider-Man, he ends up breaking down the walls to the Tobey and Garfield Spiderverses.

Most likely before that happened, the spell couldn't have backfired so spectacularly because Kang was destroying the variant timelines; now that isn't the case so the spell backfires much worse.

Anyway, that's my theory.

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Why even give her the initials MJ, then?

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Potentially just a reference to the real MJ kind of like how Spider-Man 2 referenced Dr. Strange which I guess is actually kind of funny now considering that movie is technically part of the MCU now

So apparently the bridge in the trailer where see the Goblin bomb is George Washington Bridge which is important because...

How long do y'all think it will take for them to re-create the meme?

Alfred Molina

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So apparently the bridge in the trailer where see the Goblin bomb is George Washington Bridge which is important because..

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Not quite. You can see the sign indicating the exit for the George Washington Bridge.