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re: Spider-Man 2 has long been the best Spider-Man film. Does Brand New Day dethrone it?

Posted on 8/8/26 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 7:28 pm to
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The Holland films have always been solid but this was finally Peter on his own. No Avengers, no Stark tech, no friends or family, just Peter on his own trying to save the city.


Did we watch the same movie?

The punisher was in this movie more than stark was in homecoming. He also went to Bruce banner for help on the inhibitor chip.

Even the surprise villain was a world building character for the mcu

They even give him an unnecessary suit AI again just to resemble iron man

Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie but this was not the "bare bones" spiderman movie people were hoping for after NWH
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 7:55 pm to
No, but it’s still a very good film.
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
3911 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:57 am to
Spider Man 2 holds up extremely well
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Does Brand New Day dethrone it?


Yes
Posted by SOBmustpay
North Louisiana
Member since Jun 2026
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:48 am to
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Jean Grey was so jarring it brought the movie down quite a bit for me

I’m not quite sure how to feel about Jean. I’m sure the girl is a fine actress, but something just felt off. I can’t really explain it either, just off. It’ll probably turn out fine, I just didn’t connect with this Jean for whatever reason.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:47 pm to
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Spider-Man 2 has long been the best Spider-Man film.

quote:

Spider-Man 2 is the perfect superhero movie

I am in alignment with these. SM2 has always been a top superhero movie for me (X2 is up there for me as well).

I actually didn’t care for the first two Holland movies, although he is a great Peter Parker (and is good in the other Marvel movies). But No Way Home was badass.

I haven’t seen the new one yet but I suspect I will like it and it will be better than his first two. But it will take a lot for it to top SM2 for me. That movie is just awesome ans the perfect amount of campy, cartoonish shite mixed in with serious stakes, McGuire is great, Molina is great and Doc Oc is such a great villain. And the SFX are great too.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:48 pm to
Same and I think it’s because the things the movie has her do to raise the stakes and position her as the main villain can’t be reconciled the way the movie wants in the 3rd act. It’s a swerve or twist in the movie but the buildup doesn’t match the payoff.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 1:58 pm to
My biggest complaint about the movie was that Jean shouldn't be able to do all that telepathic shite yet

Until X trained her, she was mainly telekinetic. . .and crazy powerful with it

Iirc, she didn't know she could read minds until Xavier taught her

And that is waaaaaay later

It would be like introducing Magik as the Queen of Limbo, right off the bat

But then again the MCU had Danvers go Binary within minutes of figuring out how to use her powers. . .so frick lore, I guess
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 2:17 pm to
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but something just felt off.


She very clearly was having ptsd.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 3:06 pm to
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It’ll probably turn out fine, I just didn’t connect with this Jean for whatever reason.

I don’t think she’s a good casting. Famke has a presence that you feel in those films

This girl feels like an imitation
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 3:32 pm to
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This girl feels like an imitation


She’s considerably younger so I dont think it’s fair to expect the same
presence as Famke

they gotta get
another 15 years of movies out of this cast
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 3:34 pm to
We just rolled out of the theater. Pretty good Spider-Man movie. It’s up there at the top. Off to the Cheesecake Factory for some food.

ETA: After dinner and the drive home, I'm chilling, cogitating on this movie a little bit. I rank it number three of the Spider-Man movies. Spider-Man 2, No Way Home, and then Brand New Day.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 7:02 pm
Posted by AkronTiger
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 4:34 pm to
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I’m not quite sure how to feel about Jean. I’m sure the girl is a fine actress, but something just felt off. I can’t really explain it either, just off. It’ll probably turn out fine, I just didn’t connect with this Jean for whatever reason.



I didn't think much of her performance either. The weak point of the movie for me.

Really good film, but preferred No Way Home.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:43 pm to
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The weak point of the movie for me.


Lol no



Spoiler:









The aunt may scene alone was great, and her arc made sense.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5380 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:36 pm to
Not even close. The MCU Spiderman films are an absolute joke compared to the Raimi films.

The Raimi films are for actual adults who want to watch serious drama films with superb character development. The MCU films are for the TikTok broccoli heads who want to watch Tom Holland swinging across buildings and say, “HOLY shite BRO ITS frickING SPIDER-MAN DUDE LOOK AT HIM BRO!”
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 7:55 pm
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:10 am to
No.

My boys have been re-watching all of the Spider Man movies over the last week and it's not even the best Tom Holland Spider Man movie. I still think that's Homecoming.

I am more upset that we have had four Spider Man movies that cover a timespan of high school + 4 more years and yet we still have not been introduced to the Norman Osborn, Harry Osborn, Otto Octavius, or Gwen Stacy.

On top of that we spent so much time connecting the tissues of Peter, Tony Stark, Happy Hogan, etc but completely ignored Wilson Fisk and only had a cameo from Murdock.

I may have convinced myself that I'm more frustrated with these films than I am satisfied by them.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 12:03 pm to
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The Raimi films are for actual adults who want to watch serious drama films with superb character development.


Lmfao
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5380 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:20 pm to
Another MCU fanboy. Oof.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28469 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:22 pm to
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JasonDBlaha


The MCU has plenty of faults, that has nothing to do with your awful interpretation of raimis movies
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5380 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 3:46 pm to
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The MCU has plenty of faults, that has nothing to do with your awful interpretation of raimis movies


Your interpretation of the MCU films are absolutely deplorable.
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