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re: 'Snow White' Discussion Thread: Tomatometer @ 46%. Opens at 87 mil WW

Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:30 am to
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 4:30 am to
I mean, it's a kids movie that's going to come out in the Spring. The "controversies" are largely siloed to a group of people that were never the target audience to begin with. Baby Sitters and Mom on Mommy Daughter days are the audience, and they will go because it's safe and Disney.

Will it be a mega hit? Probably not because Disney has lost the magic touch lately. But it won't be the magnificent flop some people think it will be.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:45 am to
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But it won't be the magnificent flop some people think it will be.


it'll be a financial disaster, regardless of how the media or Disney spin it.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:23 am to
Disney must need a lot of write-offs
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:29 am to
Saw a preview this weekend. Honestly the little cottage and all looked pretty cool live action. The dwarves looked absolutely ridiculous CGI.

The wicked queen though
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:12 pm to
Finally some marketing

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Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:50 pm to
I swear, if they want to change the original story that much... just WRITE A NEW STORY.

FFS.

If you're so confident in your story, then write it as an original and put it out there. If you're right, people will go see it.

I miss the 80s and 90s, when video rentals meant there was a place for lower and mid-budget movies. Everything these days is either an indie picture or has to be bolted onto some existing IP otherwise it won't get greenlit.

I honestly cannot remember the last big budget movie that was actually original and not from an existing novel, previous movie, sequel, or other franchise (like Marvel).

I did find a post on Reddit that listed the following. The post is from 3 years ago but I doubt it's changed:

quote:

Ignoring the pandemic-affected years, the last time an original film made the top 10 highest grossing films of the year was 2016 with Zootopia reaching 4th. Secret Life of Pets also made it up there at 6th.

The last time a live action film made the top 10 list was 2014, when Interstellar was the 10th highest grossing film of the year. Gravity at 8th in 2013 and Inception at 4th in 2010 are the only other live action original Hollywood films to make the top 10.

It's not quite the question you asked, but it does demonstrate just how IP-heavy the film industry has been.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:01 pm to
Edit: I’m retarded
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Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:17 pm to
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miss the 80s and 90s, when video rentals meant there was a place for lower and mid-budget movies. Everything these days is either an indie picture or has to be bolted onto some existing IP otherwise it won't get greenlit.



Unfortunately audiences only show up to known IPs nowadays. Nolan seems to be the only director that can bring in a large audience with an original film. It sucks.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Nolan seems to be the only director that can bring in a large audience with an original film. It sucks.


QT, DV (although he does a lot of established IP now), if the Coens got back together, PTA, Wes Anderson, and there are a handful of others who can bring folks in for something new.

As it is, existing IPs (MCU, Star Wars/Lucasfilm, etc.) are hurting now as well.

The problem with scat like this Snow White film is that it cheapens both the original film and the Disney brand writ large. It is a bad long-term move, regardless, but Disney got hooked on cheap/easy money the early live action remakes brought in. Even the good ones do not exceed the original and the bad ones are bad for the entire brand.

#Sad
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:43 pm to
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QT, DV (although he does a lot of established IP now), if the Coens got back together, PTA, Wes Anderson, and there are a handful of others who can bring folks in for something new.


You're right about Tarantino. The others are all great directors, but it's no guarantee they'll bring in a large audience. Just look at BR2049. A fantastic film that flopped at the box office. I'm glad Dune's turned out great though. Hopefully that catapults Denis to Nolan levels. He deserves it.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:58 pm to
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You're right about Tarantino. The others are all great directors, but it's no guarantee they'll bring in a large audience.


This is true. I was curious so I looked it up and was surprised by their best box office numbers

Coen’s - True Grit ($180m)
PTA: There Will Be Blood ($76m)
Wes: Grand Budapest ($172m)

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:13 am to
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Coen’s - True Grit ($180m)


And they didn't spend $40m to make it. And your number is domestic, it was over $250m worldwide. The studio probably made $50m profit. There was a secondary market and so forth.

This current era of boom/bust is a hell of Hollywood's own making
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 7:16 am
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:19 am to
I still don’t get why for a live action movie they didn’t go with Lord of the Rings style dwarves.

What’s the point of live action if you stick with cartoons?
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:21 am to
Going from the non-dwarf dwarfs to animated will help it at least break even. Little kids will drag their parents to see it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:30 am to
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Going from the non-dwarf dwarfs to animated will help it at least break even.


Doubtful.

It has a ballooned budget that is likely between 250-300 million dollars. Marketing will push that number closer to 500 million. It'll need close to one billion dollars just to break even. That ain't happening.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 7:56 am to
where is the marketing for this film? You would think it would be splashed all over the Disney owned channels plus merch/etc. where are the Snow White toys at McDonald’s? Am I just out of touch?

It’s Snow White for fricks sake…the most important and impactful kids movie ever made. This thing should be a cultural phenomenon even if the movie isn’t that great

if you are going to remake Snow White there has to be a plan to remake the cultural aspect as well, or it is doomed
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:24 am to
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Marketing will push that number closer to 500 million.


What marketing? Disney has given up on this film. That's silly to think they're spending 200 mil on marketing alone
Posted by rebelrouser
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:34 am to
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I still don’t get why for a live action movie they didn’t go with Lord of the Rings style dwarves.

What’s the point of live action if you stick with cartoons?


That was the original plan until Peter Dinklage decided he was the only dwarf in Hollywood allowed to make money. They caved to that pressure and did the seven magical DEI people and that was mocked relentlessly:



So it was live action dwarves, live action DEI people, and then CGI dwarves. And people in this thread think this steaming pile can make money? Please.
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:34 am to
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What marketing?


The only time you hear of this movie is when Rachel chimes in how white people are the devil or something else nonsensical that nobody asked her about

She is radioactive at the moment
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 9:37 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
59027 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:47 am to
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She is radioactive at the moment


If this movie bombs, her career might be in serious trouble. Why would any studio want to put up with her?
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