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Shows that had bad first seasons and turned out great
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:10 am
I love Seinfeld, but those first 2 seasons are just awful. Aside from 1 or 2 episodes, I don’t even enjoy rewatching them. I am surprised the show lasted long enough to see season 3, where it really starts to take off.
What are other good examples of shows that start really slow but go on to be great?
What are other good examples of shows that start really slow but go on to be great?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:16 am to jsquardjj
Seinfeld was going to be my choice when I saw the thread title. If I see reruns on TV and its a S1 or 2 episode I don't watch.
Parks and Rec is another, although in retrospect years later, season 1 is fine.
Parks and Rec is another, although in retrospect years later, season 1 is fine.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:16 am to jsquardjj
Does the first 3 episodes of Black Sails count as a 'bad first season'?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:17 am to jsquardjj
Halt and Catch Fire comes to mind
The Leftovers sort of as well
Black Sails somewhat too.
The Leftovers sort of as well
Black Sails somewhat too.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:19 am to LSUBoo
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Parks and Rec
came in here to say this. i watched it a few years back and it's my favorite.
i let my oldest watch it with me this last year and he wanted to bail on the first season. they tried to hard to recreate Michael Scott with Leslie, but then settled her out after that.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:20 am to jsquardjj
I disagree with both of you. Seinfeld S1 only had five episodes and P&R only had six. That is somewhat common for new shows trying to find their way. Both had some solid episodes and P&R year one was excellent. The Banquet where Leslie gets the man haircut and everyone thinks Ann is her girlfriend is hilarious. Mark banging Shauna Malwee-Tweep in The Reporter was also great. P&R year one was second best year ever. The show jumped the shark pretty early by making the characters too silly and the episodes too over the top.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:22 am to jsquardjj
may not count since "reality" but, Big Brother's first season was incredibly bad. Was pretty good for maybe 10 seasons after that. then went to shite again.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:24 am to rebelrouser
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The show jumped the shark pretty early by making the characters too silly and the episodes too over the top.
i disagree. they made them over the top to begin with, then settled them down. Craig and Andy are the only ones they really let be over the top after that. you could also argue for John Ralphio, Jamm, and Tammy 2, but they did them all in small doses like Creed.
my favortie thing was they took Ron just being a cranky boss and leslie being over the top annoying and found a good way to lean into a staunch libertarian vs. do gooder liberal and make it endearing.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:26 am to jsquardjj
The office.
yeah come at me.
yeah come at me.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:30 am to LSUBoo
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Parks and Rec
I came here to say this. Similarly, I'd say The Office. The pilot episode basically aped all of the original UK's Ep 1 version.
The intentionally gave Michael Scott bad hair, an oversized suit, etc. in order to make him unlikable character, like Ricky Gervais.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:07 am to thatoneguy
Correct answer is actually The Simpsons.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:14 am to Byron Bojangles III
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The office.
yeah come at me.
Didn't really become funny until "The Dundies."
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:22 am to thatoneguy
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The intentionally gave Michael Scott bad hair, an oversized suit, etc. in order to make him unlikable character, like Ricky Gervais.
I couldn't believe it when I read this. For years, I thought Steve Carrell had a hair transplant after he started getting bigger in the office. I had no idea his hair was always fine and they purposely made it look like it was falling out.
I will agree with Parks & Rec. I watched the first season after watching later seasons. It's jarring how different some of the characters are with the most being Andy. I was so used to him being a lovable guy. It's weird how unlikeable he is in season 1.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:16 pm to jsquardjj
quote:ive never done a full watch
Seinfeld
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:18 pm to jsquardjj
quote:Were any of the famous episodes from those?
Seinfeld, but those first 2 seasons are just awful
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:01 pm to Fun Bunch
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Parks and Rec is another, although in retrospect years later, season 1 is fine.
It’s not terrible but they really found their stride in season 2 increasing the role of Ron and Andy.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:03 pm to AlxTgr
Chapelle Show Season 1 was good but isn't even in the same stratosphere as Season 2
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:04 pm to AlxTgr
Jerry watching that dog Farfull.
Just kidding, that one was terrible too.
Just kidding, that one was terrible too.
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