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Shawshank Redemption theory **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:05 pm
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:05 pm
Okay, less of a theory, more of a ponderance:

What are the odds that Andy Dufresne’s tunnel was completed long before his escape? He seems committed to projects and relationships throughout his sentence. We know very little about his life on the outside other than the fact that he was brought to the lowest point a married man can be brought to, so in context it wouldn’t be beyond the pail to assume he had his reasons for staying.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:08 pm to
Probably get a better response on the MTV board
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:13 pm to
Whoops!
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:19 pm to
Probably a good theory.

I doubt he’d put the work into his escape plan without getting the tunnel done and knowing he could get out.

Heck, he may have finished the tunnel and then started his plan for getting the money under his made up persona.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Panama City, Florida
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:37 pm to
RA’d
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 6:15 am to
It was completed long before he used it. He needed thr perfect night to pull it off. Heavy thunderstorms at the right time. He had it done before thrown in solitary the last time. He used that time for thr perfect escape plan.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 6:41 am to
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What are the odds that Andy Dufresne’s tunnel was completed long before his escape?


He formulated the plan not long after his first night with the rock hammer when a chunk of the wall fell out carving his name.

If he was there for 19 years there’s a good possibility it was completed long before his actual escape
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 6:42 am to
I thought the movie implied it took 20yrs to build? I was just amazed he was in the same cell long enough to complete it.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:02 am to
quote:

I thought the movie implied it took 20yrs to build? I was just amazed he was in the same cell long enough to complete it.


Great movie but this always bothered me.

No way a guy would be in the same cell long enough to pull that off.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:32 am to
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No way a guy would be in the same cell long enough to pull that off.
andy was the wardens accountant and the librarian. It would have been a small ask to stay in the same cell
Posted by Deek
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:44 am to
While on the topics of tunnels, I never understood why the sewage exploded in his face as if it was under pressure, but when he crawled out at the end there way barely a trickle.
Posted by Keep Stirring
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:36 am to
Do we really need Spoiler warnings on 29 year old movies?

Also didn't he just crawl through the sewers with a hole he made during a thunderstorm?
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:42 am to
I'm all for spoiler warning, but I think you're good on this one
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:55 am to
Isn't it implied he's been sitting on it for awhile in the movie?

Red speculating but he mentions:

"I guess after Tommy was killed, Andy decided he'd been here just about long enough."

Andy had some purpose in Prison (besides money laundering) and was staying because he wasn't selfish and was making life better for the inmates. When Tommy was killed, he changed and said frick this place...but its not like he crawled through a river of shite the day after he completed the tunnel.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:06 am to
I’ve never thought about this but I guess it makes sense. He was “institutionalized,” until Tommy’s story snapped him out of it. Even then, he wanted to get out through the proper channels (a new trial). If he had done that, he probably wouldn’t have been able to steal the warden’s money, and would have ended up like Red and Brooks.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:09 am to
quote:

It was completed long before he used it. He needed thr perfect night to pull it off. Heavy thunderstorms at the right time. He had it done before thrown in solitary the last time. He used that time for thr perfect escape plan.



Never really thought about this before, but this is clearly correct. After all, he was basically a dead man if they'd have found the hole even at a foot deep, so he clearly was arrogant enough to believe the poster was enough for them to never ever check behind there, so having a giant hole that lead to the inner structure go unused for months or years seems plausible as he waited for the perfect time.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:11 am to
I have a different sort of question. How did Andy know that the prisons sewage discharge pipe just dumped into a creek instead of leading to a waste water treatment plant?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:12 am to
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andy was the wardens accountant and the librarian. It would have been a small ask to stay in the same cell


True, but that didn't start for a while, until after he did the taxes for the guards, right? And we can assume he started digging in earnest as soon as Red gave him his first poster.

He easily could have been moved before then.
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
3028 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:34 am to
quote:

He easily could have been moved before then.


Well Red was never moved, either. Maybe back then they didn't move prisoners that often.
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