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re: Severance Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers)

Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:15 pm to
It sounds like you just don't like the basic premise of the entire show. That's fine, but that doesn't make the goings on "fabricated".
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:19 pm to
As an aside, I wish we'd have gotten a scene with the goat herder leaving work. Her leaving everyday wondering why she smells like goat shite.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:21 pm to
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I’ll just say this. Mark S. should have had at least a grasp of understanding about what Mark Scout had gone through and what he had done to get Gemma back.



And in his mind, he saved Gemma. He did his part, he saved her life.

And he knows the second he leaves that door "he" is dead. Mark would never voluntarily return, and wouldn't be allowed to return most likely if he even wanted to.

His thought is the thought of every animal: to extend his life. This is the only one he has, and he wants to spend it with someone he cares about.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Are you sure you're watching Severance?



Do you know who you're talking to here?
It's unlikely he as actually watched it, but he's probably watched enough youtube videos on it to have a basic understanding of what's going on.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:24 pm to
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And there’d better be someone waiting for Gemma on the outside.


Yeah this would be one of the major problems.

I have a theory about her being harassed trying to escape and Dylan's cop wife being there but dunno

But now we have Gemma being free and the ramifications of that (will anyone even believe her?)

Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:25 pm to
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As an aside, I wish we'd have gotten a scene with the goat herder leaving work. Her leaving everyday wondering why she smells like goat shite.


That would have been good. If I had one wish, it would have been to include Ricken at the birthing cabin. Probably too much comedic relief for that scene, but I need a Ricken/Mark S reunion before it’s all said and done.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:26 pm to
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The conflict Mark, S and the Innies had was fully fabricated and made no sense.


Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Episode 7 is widely viewed as one of if not the best episode of the series. It has a 9.3/10 rating on IMDb. That episode certainly did not lose momentum, it gained it. I liked episode 8 but could see why some wouldn't.


7 was necessary

8 was a complete waste of time
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:51 pm to
I kinda agree on ep 8 and I love this show to death.

Ep 8 could have been interspersed in small segments throughout the season.

It could have been told in 10 minutes with her coming through this terrible town, getting to the house and sparring with her aunt (?), and then finding the notebook and leaving.

Most of it really wasn't necessary, but hopefully in S3 they can find a way to make it seem more relevant.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:52 pm to
Going into Season 3, what I want to know

1 - What is Irv's backstory? That is a giant hanging thread out there.

2 - How will they make the throuple work?

3 - Will Milkshake be a white hat or black hat?
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:04 pm to
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1 - What is Irv's backstory? That is a giant hanging thread out there.



bet we don't see much of Irv. He is pretty much written off the show
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:09 pm to
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I kinda agree on ep 8 and I love this show to death.

Ep 8 could have been interspersed in small segments throughout the season.

It could have been told in 10 minutes with her coming through this terrible town, getting to the house and sparring with her aunt (?), and then finding the notebook and leaving.

Most of it really wasn't necessary, but hopefully in S3 they can find a way to make it seem more relevant


if i had to bet, they had scheduling issues with arquette that forced their hand
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:55 pm to
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But now we have Gemma being free and the ramifications of that (will anyone even believe her?)


First, she's back from the grave after 2 years. Hard to not 'believe' that.

But what does she even remember? Did Cold Harbor fully take? Will she get her memories back? Or will they execute some fail safe in her implant and just erase her fully?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:05 pm to
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It sounds like you just don't like the basic premise of the entire show. That's fine, but that doesn't make the goings on "fabricated".


The basic premise of a show that's borderline science fiction?

OK,whatever.

I've watched 2 seasons so far & about the most criticizing thing I've said is the ending didn't work for me.

"Oh no! At the very last moment, Mark didn't do the very thing the audience has been cheering him to do! Arrrrgh! "

Please.

It just feels lazy. Now, if there's some redeeming way Cobel can come in and 'fix' the issue (why would she even do such a thing?) then maybe? But as of now, Mark S is coming off as a colossal dick.

And from what I see on just here, others feel the same about the ending.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:19 pm to
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The basic premise of a show that's borderline science fiction?
It is absolutely one of the basic premises of the show. "Innie rights" has been a constant throughout. Also, not sure what you mean by "borderline science fiction" - I would definitely label the show as dystopian science fiction.
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But as of now, Mark S is coming off as a colossal dick.
Mark S is acting on self preservation and what HE wants (his rights) and that is to be alive and his relationship with Helly R. He did free Gemma, that's not being a dick. But if he leaves with Gemma, he is basically ending his own existence and never see Helly R again. Outie Mark never would go back to Lumon and switch on innie Mark.
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And from what I see on just here, others feel the same about the ending.
Most - not all - of the complainers have been complaining about the show for a while. And that's their prerogative, I've said many times not every show is for every one.

However, they seem like they actually watched and understood the show, but disliked some choices. You, on that other hand, don't seem to grasp the basic concepts of the show through 2 seasons.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Most - not all - of the complainers have been complaining about the show for a while


I generally don't watch and complain. If a show has an interesting plot, solid characters, holds true to its own world building, then I'm on board.

And here I am, still watching.

That I don't agree with ONE event, at the very ending, is deemed by you as 'not grasping the concept' is hilarious. (OK, the animosity between Outie Dylan and his innie doesn't sync well with me either, but to a far lesser degree)

Am I glad there's a season 3? Yes. But I'm not so hopefully they can pull off the story.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:40 pm to
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That I don't agree with ONE event, at the very ending, is deemed by you as 'not grasping the concept' is hilarious.
When you say stuff like...
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The conflict Mark, S and the Innies had was fully fabricated and made no sense. It existed because the show needed it. That’s all.
It's pretty clear it isn't one event and you don't understand it's a basic premise and not fabricated just for fabrication's sake. The whole show has been leading up to this one way or another. Again, "Innie rights" was introduced very early in the show.

Not agreeing with Mark's decision is fine and dandy. Thinking it had no basis in the "shows' reality" is nonsense. It's been on this course.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 5:42 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:51 pm to
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It's pretty clear it isn't one event and you don't understand it's a basic premise and not fabricated just for fabrication's sake. The whole show has been leading up to this one way or another. Again, "Innie rights" was introduced very early in the show.


You can repeat it as often as you like, but not agreeing and not grasping aren't the same thing.

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Not agreeing with Mark's decision is fine and dandy. Thinking it had no basis in the "shows' reality" is nonsense. It's been on this course.


Not only do I not agree with it, I don't think his and Helly R.'s relationship has been earned to the point that he'd risk it all for her. They had Ms Cobel right there, who should be the one person who could have given input to their fate. But she remained fairly silent. Maybe she plays a part in resolving the issue, if there is one, in S3. But she's of course evil, and could turn on everyone to gain control of Lumon.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Not only do I not agree with it, I don't think his and Helly R.'s relationship has been earned to the point that he'd risk it all for her.
What exactly is he "risking"? If he goes with Gemma he ceases to exist as a consciousness.

He really only has experienced a relationship with Helly R (and raped by Helena), she's his first love and since the innies can be described as younger versions of their outies, him being "in-love" with Helly R isn't some fabricated impossibility.

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You can repeat it as often as you like, but not agreeing and not grasping aren't the same thing.
The idea that you think "innies shouldn't do innie things" and it was introduced just for the show's sake demonstrates your lack of understanding.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:10 pm to
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bet we don't see much of Irv. He is pretty much written off the show


Unless there are contract issues for John Turturro, there is zero reason for his storyline to be complete.

He has the most mysterious and important backstory. We know the rest of the teams history now, but Irv is a shrouded in secrecy.

We are not done with Irv.
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