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Random question about actor's pay I have never found an answer to
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:28 pm
Odd question, but it has always made me wonder-->
We watched a stupid Red Box movie with Nick Cage ( Grand Isle ) this weekend.
What does a star make for a movie like that?
Is it millions or chump change to pay taxes/buy a boat/take a vacation? I wondered why big names are in poorly produced, low budget , straight to home movies.
We watched a stupid Red Box movie with Nick Cage ( Grand Isle ) this weekend.
What does a star make for a movie like that?
Is it millions or chump change to pay taxes/buy a boat/take a vacation? I wondered why big names are in poorly produced, low budget , straight to home movies.
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:30 pm to Rsande63
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Is it millions or chump change to pay taxes/buy a boat/take a vacation? I wondered why big names are in poorly produced, low budget , straight to home movies.
Nic Cage is notorious for his spending and debt, so I wouldn't question why or how much he makes. He'll do anything.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:31 pm to Rsande63
Washed up guys like Steven Seagal still make about $2 million a movie. You could have literally half the budget going to pay the star since the whole movie is sold around them anyway. I would bet Cage pulls in about $5 million a movie today.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:37 pm to Brosef Stalin
Thanks ...I was always curious. I have tried to book speakers for my professional society and some random people, with less than 15 minutes of fame, sometimes want 25-50K for a speech & one day walk around at a conference.
In reality, if my wife wanted a luxury vacation to Italy or private plane and all I had to do was work 10p - 4a at the Circle K for a couple weeks I'd do it haha.
In reality, if my wife wanted a luxury vacation to Italy or private plane and all I had to do was work 10p - 4a at the Circle K for a couple weeks I'd do it haha.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:56 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Washed up guys like Steven Seagal still make about $2 million a movie
2 million? How do the studios make money on the movie
Posted on 8/13/20 at 3:57 pm to stateofplay
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How do the studios make money on the movie
Product placement in the movie, distribution
ETA: Or they use the losses to offset gains from other movies. Apparently Hollywood accounting is very screwy.
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:01 pm to stateofplay
Total budget is likely in the $5 million - $10 million range. Apparently they make enough profit between redbox, VOD, and whatever streaming service picks them up.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:04 pm to Rsande63
Cage and Snipes are both working off IRS debt.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:59 pm to Rsande63
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Grand Isle
Like as in Louisiana’s Grand Isle?
Posted on 8/13/20 at 5:08 pm to Rsande63
Quick small paydays.
Sometimes they sign a contract to do a certain number of films for a set amount of money, like I’ll do 5 films for $50 million for this studio.
Some guys just like to work. Whether it’s a shitty little no nothing film, a huge blockbuster they play a bit role in, or an artistic turn in a prestige film.
Sometimes they sign a contract to do a certain number of films for a set amount of money, like I’ll do 5 films for $50 million for this studio.
Some guys just like to work. Whether it’s a shitty little no nothing film, a huge blockbuster they play a bit role in, or an artistic turn in a prestige film.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 5:48 pm to SPEEDY
Speedy,
Is was based in Louisiana and the only connection to Grand Isle was a hurricane and bad accents. Not a single mention of tarpon haha.
Is was based in Louisiana and the only connection to Grand Isle was a hurricane and bad accents. Not a single mention of tarpon haha.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 5:56 pm to ProjectP2294
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How do the studios make money on the movie
Product placement in the movie, distribution
And then selling the TV rights to TBS, TNT, etc. Network pays the licensing fee then sells ads for their revenue.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:09 pm to Rsande63
I've always wondered what kind of living some of these character actors that you recognize but can't name make. The ones when you look at the filmography on IMDb they've never had a recurring role but they have about 500 credits on various shows for random roles. Seems like the easiest job in the world
Posted on 8/13/20 at 7:56 pm to Rsande63
They don't talk about the business side of the industry much, but I'm always interested in this too.
Recently saw an interview with Kevin Pollack and they were asking him about A Few Good Men. He said Jack Nicholson signed on for a discounted fixed rate but he only gave them five days of shooting or something like that and anything extra was some outrageous per diem like $1 million. They finished the filming shots in time but they still needed an extra day for voice dubs and offscreen lines. They couldn't afford to keep Jack on set, so they had Kevin, who apparently did a spot on Nicholson impression, say the lines.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 8:27 pm to Rsande63
Most actors are paid a lump sum to be in the movie and that's it
The SMART actors take a percentage of the backend and make bank in the long term while producing their own movies later aka the Tom Cruise method
The SMART actors take a percentage of the backend and make bank in the long term while producing their own movies later aka the Tom Cruise method
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:43 pm to theunknownknight
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The SMART actors take a percentage of the backend and make bank in the long term while producing their own movies later aka the Tom Cruise method
Only the most popular actors can negotiate this kind of deal.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:52 pm to stateofplay
In general? Overseas distribution, home video sales, and TV / pay cable rights.
It is effectively gambling on low stakes that you likely break even or possibly hit it big.
Most of this stuff craps out but you occasionally get very lucky. Lionsgate had a little nothing horror movie with one big star in Danny Glover and some lesser stars in Cary Elwes, Tobin Bell, and Michael Emerson that ended up being a huge moneymaker for them.
That also doesn’t go into some other financial frickery which is used to severely cut film costs.
Germany used to have some major tax credits if the film was a German production, which is partially how Uwe Boll was able to make so many shitty movies.
States like Louisiana also have their own credits which are used to offset a lot of costs for films, ranging from the Syfy channel B movies to bigger films like Ray.
It is effectively gambling on low stakes that you likely break even or possibly hit it big.
Most of this stuff craps out but you occasionally get very lucky. Lionsgate had a little nothing horror movie with one big star in Danny Glover and some lesser stars in Cary Elwes, Tobin Bell, and Michael Emerson that ended up being a huge moneymaker for them.
That also doesn’t go into some other financial frickery which is used to severely cut film costs.
Germany used to have some major tax credits if the film was a German production, which is partially how Uwe Boll was able to make so many shitty movies.
States like Louisiana also have their own credits which are used to offset a lot of costs for films, ranging from the Syfy channel B movies to bigger films like Ray.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:26 pm to AUFANATL
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Recently saw an interview with Kevin Pollack and they were asking him about A Few Good Men. He said Jack Nicholson signed on for a discounted fixed rate but he only gave them five days of shooting or something like that and anything extra was some outrageous per diem like $1 million. They finished the filming shots in time but they still needed an extra day for voice dubs and offscreen lines. They couldn't afford to keep Jack on set, so they had Kevin, who apparently did a spot on Nicholson impression, say the lines.
That is a classic late night interview- was it Conan?
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:34 am to Corso
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I've always wondered what kind of living some of these character actors that you recognize but can't name make. The ones when you look at the filmography on IMDb they've never had a recurring role but they have about 500 credits on various shows for random roles. Seems like the easiest job in the world
To me, that seems like it would be a real grind of never ending auditions and reads to keep your calendar full enough to make a good living.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:21 pm to Bruco
Grand Isle as an example since it was mentioned ... producers pay Nic let's say 2M for two weeks. The overall budget is somewhere around 5M (before LA tax credits.) Shoot mostly locations and avoid building too much (which can add up). At that budget level the crew rates are a bargain and you are likely only shooting 25 days total (compared to most projects which are 35 days or more).
Slap together the film and put his face on the poster. The movie is likely already pre sold in foreign territories based on talent/genre .... which gives the producers secure funding for investors.
Bruce Willis has become the literal poster boy for this .
Slap together the film and put his face on the poster. The movie is likely already pre sold in foreign territories based on talent/genre .... which gives the producers secure funding for investors.
Bruce Willis has become the literal poster boy for this .
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