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re: Question, GOT the show Red Wedding: spoilers
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:11 pm to Korin
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:11 pm to Korin
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If Tywin Lannister wants you to do something, it's not exactly a choice.
He was one if the most powerful lords involved in the rebellion against the Lannister backed throne...
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:15 pm to Korin
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If Tywin Lannister wants you to do something, it's not exactly a choice.
Really all Tywin did was promise to not come after them with the entire might of the Seven Kingdoms behind them once they did the most fricked up thing in human history. If Walder Frey went through with this without Tywin's leave, he would have killed them all.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:23 pm to LeonPhelps
OP: You need SPOILERS in your title.
They changed the wife in the show because the plan was to kill her off. GRR Martin did not want the same character from the book to be killed off in the show, because her family still has a part to play in the book.
Also, it was done for effect. They wanted to raise the bar by having the preggers wife stabbed.
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Here is a question: why the frick did they change who Robb married in the show and how they met?
They changed the wife in the show because the plan was to kill her off. GRR Martin did not want the same character from the book to be killed off in the show, because her family still has a part to play in the book.
Also, it was done for effect. They wanted to raise the bar by having the preggers wife stabbed.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:25 pm to jrodLSUke
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Also, it was done for effect. They wanted to raise the bar by having the preggers wife stabbed.
Yeah, that even surprised the readers.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:28 pm to CalLSU
Another thought on why it should have been a surprising act:
The Frey's power comes through allowing people, families and armies to pass across their bridge. Clearly the Frey's have no credibility anymore when it comes to letting others cross safely. An enormous part of their incoming wealth is no more.
The Frey's power comes through allowing people, families and armies to pass across their bridge. Clearly the Frey's have no credibility anymore when it comes to letting others cross safely. An enormous part of their incoming wealth is no more.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:29 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, that even surprised the readers.
I mean, we knew she was fricked just because she was along for the ride. But that chick got stabbed in her preggers stomach and then bled out on the floor.
How is that NOT a WTF moment for the OP?
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:32 pm to jrodLSUke
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How is that NOT a WTF moment for the OP?
No doubt. We all new she was going to die, but I thought it would be a throat slash. Not a disembowlment.
frick EVERY SINGLE FREY. I hope Nymeria bites off Walder's ugly fricking head.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:38 pm to jrodLSUke
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They changed the wife in the show because the plan was to kill her off. GRR Martin did not want the same character from the book to be killed off in the show, because her family still has a part to play in the book.
Why change from what was written? Do they consider themselves better story tellers than George R R Martin? Frick this show and its numerous changes from the story. At least give me the right color hair for Rob. I get why they had to age everyone 3 years for the show, but at least give me the right freaking hair color.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:40 pm to glassman
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No doubt. We all new she was going to die, but I thought it would be a throat slash. Not a disembowlment.
I was personally thinking she was part of the Lannister Honeypot theory.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:42 pm to CalLSU
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned or not, but guest rights
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:44 pm to OMLandshark
She could have been. If she was she was silenced.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:52 pm to OMLandshark
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Well, Robb didn't bring his wife there in the books for reasons you stated.
She's also a completely different person.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:54 pm to Tiger1242
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned or not, but guest rights
It has not been mentioned. I'm sure the OP appreciates it.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:54 pm to CalLSU
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CalLSU
Hodor.?!
Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:59 pm to CalLSU
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Why was it such a surprise that they killed Robb and Catelyn and Robb's wife? I mean, Robb basically spit in Walder Frey's face by going back on his word to marry one of Frey's daughters. Not only does he do that, but he brings the girl that he married instead to the wedding.
Because Robb Stark had an army that was destroying everyone in it's path. If not for the backing of the Lannisters Frey wouldn't have had the balls to do that.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 6:38 pm to CalLSU
I have really enjoyed messing with people's heads over this, but I truly have not read the books. It was surprising to me because I thought Talisa was secretly a Lannister, and that Robb would be done in by her somehow.
The Wolf Head thing was pretty shocking.
The Wolf Head thing was pretty shocking.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 6:55 pm to CalLSU
Because when you do that in this universe the things that are going to happen to the Freys happen to you.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 8:36 pm to LeonPhelps
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They changed the wife in the show because the plan was to kill her off. GRR Martin did not want the same character from the book to be killed off in the show, because her family still has a part to play in the book.
Why change from what was written? Do they consider themselves better story tellers than George R R Martin? Frick this show and its numerous changes from the story. At least give me the right color hair for Rob. I get why they had to age everyone 3 years for the show, but at least give me the right freaking hair color.
Why do these things bother you? More specifically, why can't you accept the small deviations when George R R Martin has already endorsed them? Do you consider yourself more of an owner of the story than George R R Martin?
Not to get into a pissing match, but I always get annoyed when book readers/comic book readers get so pissed off at small deviations to screen adaptations. Let's just be honest here and realize that Game of Thrones the show is one of the more honest adaptations out there, period. Book 1 to Season 1 was pretty seamless, and I think they're still being faithful since then.
"Why did they change character X's eye color?" "Why is she wearing a blue dress in that scene when CLEARLY in the books it was a green one? How difficult would it have been to get a green dress!?"
Who cares? The story is there and in tact and that's what matters.
Why Talisa in stead of Jeyne Westerling? And why kill the wife at the wedding instead of tucked away off screen? I think it's the same reason that the show decided to specifically and out right show Theon's, ahem, dismemberment. Subtlety and alluding to things off screen can only be used so far before it becomes frustrating to a viewer as you watch to SEE these events unfold on screen. Something happening off page in the books is much more acceptable than off screen in the show in my opinion.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:02 pm to bodask42
I think they mainly killed off TalisaJeyne to show that she's not pregnant with Robb's child in the books. And I still wonder about the Lannister HoneyPot theory from time to time. That youtube video last season had me fully convinced.
And the fact that book readers couldn't pick up on Theon being Varys'd makes me shake my head. GRRM actually wrote the episode that that happened in, and I expect it's because of some of the thick headed fans who were in denial about it. TheonReek basically says to Ramsay "but, m'lord, I don't...I don't have...I can't..." in the Prince of Winterfell chapter. It's really obvious that he was dismembered and can't believe readers either 1) didn't pick up on that, or 2) are in denial about it (like the ASOIAF forum posters).
And the fact that book readers couldn't pick up on Theon being Varys'd makes me shake my head. GRRM actually wrote the episode that that happened in, and I expect it's because of some of the thick headed fans who were in denial about it. TheonReek basically says to Ramsay "but, m'lord, I don't...I don't have...I can't..." in the Prince of Winterfell chapter. It's really obvious that he was dismembered and can't believe readers either 1) didn't pick up on that, or 2) are in denial about it (like the ASOIAF forum posters).
Posted on 2/24/14 at 11:11 pm to ladytiger118
The most likely possibility is that men don't like to even consider the possibility of that happening.
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