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re: Order to watch Star Wars Movies

Posted on 2/11/15 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 1:36 pm to
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That was a great movie.


dafuq
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:46 pm to
I thought it was a fricking good movie.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:52 pm to
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Parts 1 and 2 aren't the greatest mainly due to shitty acting


bullshite - Liam Neeson, Ewan MacGregor and Natalie Portman are WONDERFUL actors - any one of them having a bad run wouldn't have killed the movie.

Having a terrible (or, at least way past his prime) director/screenwriter/producer make a terrible freaking movie with them in it ISN'T bad acting (although I'll be damned if I can tell which is worse for 2 and 3 - the directing, the story or HC's acting) - it's terrible, G-dawful filmmaking - and they get worse and worse with age.

Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:57 pm to
Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor were fine in Episode I. Natalie Portman was still young and was given a very crappy character to portray, thus making her acting below average as a result. Jake Lloyd didn't work. A kid who can't act can potentially be the death of your movie. That's exactly what we got with Episode I. It also didn't help that the movie lacked a coherent story, a central character, and characters who were semi-interesting.

Episode II failed because Hayden Christensen, the movie's central character, couldn't act and had no chemistry with his female co-star. When a movie's central theme is romance, that automatically kills any chance of it being successful.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 6:08 pm to
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When a movie's central theme is romance, that automatically kills any chance of it being successful.



Which is why it is on Lucas - 98% or so - and 2% HC.

He picked the cast and decided to make movies without classic protagonist/antagonist roles, incoherent stories that were too glaring to cover with nausea inducing, cartoonish, fakey special effects sequences.

1 ended up being a kid's movie - a bad one at that. 2 was a teen romance - a bad one at that. 3 was trying to tie up loose ends of those pieces of shite and bridge to one of the most epic scifi trilogies of all time.

Ewan MacGregor really gave it the old college try and really is the only reason to watch these films - if you're going to subject yourself to them.

Just awful - really awful.

This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 6:09 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 6:26 pm to
I liked Episode III, though it still had some glaring flaws. However, the performances from Ewan McGregor and Ian McDiarmid made the film work for me. The dialogue wasn't nearly as bad in Episode III as it had been in the two previous movies, save whenever Anakin and Padme are on-screen together (Lucas sucks at writing romance). But Anakin's transformation into Darth Vader ultimately fails, however, because it hinges on the audience believing Anakin would go to the Dark Side to save his great love's life. Due to poor writing and character development over the course of the trilogy, Lucas fails to convince us that such a transformation can work.

Taken as a single movie, I find Episode III to be entertaining though no where near as good as the films found in the OT.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25851 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 6:56 pm to
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Find a pre redone #6 the change at the end was so stupid.


That shite pisses me off. Changing the music at the end and shoving Hayden Christensen in there were terrible ideas.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 10:17 pm to
I like 6. The ewoks were dumb, yes, but the dumbest thing about 6 was Luke's plan to get Han out of Jabba's palace.

Ok, Lando, you infiltrate the base.
C3PO and R2, you guys knock on the door and get captured and hope they don't wipe your memories or find the lightsaber I hid inside R2.
Leia, you take Chewbacca as a slave and try to gain favor. They may kill Chewbacca...
Then I'll go there and try to use Jedi mindtricks on him...and if that doesn't work, let's hope a blind Han Solo can shoot the most fearsome bounty hunter in the galaxy


That being said....that Throne Room scene is my favorite part in any star wars movie.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:31 am to
How was the kid a bad actor in Episode 1? I thought he did fine.


Lacked a central character?
Wat?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 7:29 am to
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Lacked a central character?



Who was the central character?
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:09 am to
Obviously Anakin.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30240 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:39 pm to
umm...no

Anakin wasn't shown in the movie until what..30 minutes in. He was the central character on Tatooine but was just a subplot for the other 2/3rds of the movie. Hell, Jar-Jar had as much screen time as him.

There was no central character. Obi-Wan should have been the central character but they goofed by leaving him on the ship on tatooine.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:00 pm to
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Obviously Anakin.



Anakin doesn't appear until the 32-minute mark in the film. He's a central character during the events that take place on Tatooine but then virtually disappears until the climax of the movie.
Posted by Mad_Mardigan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
1958 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:05 pm to
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4 5 2 3 6 not 1, not ever

I've heard this as well.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
2830 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:16 pm to
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bullshite - Liam Neeson, Ewan MacGregor and Natalie Portman are WONDERFUL actors - any one of them having a bad run wouldn't have killed the movie.

Having a terrible (or, at least way past his prime) director/screenwriter/producer make a terrible freaking movie with them in it ISN'T bad acting (although I'll be damned if I can tell which is worse for 2 and 3 - the directing, the story or HC's acting) - it's terrible, G-dawful filmmaking - and they get worse and worse with age.


So the greats like Brando, Pacino and DeNiro never had a bad performance? I was mainly referring to both of the Anakin roles. Hayden Christensen is one of the worst actors I've ever seen and that was confirmed by his role in Jumper. He's so distractingly bad that it doesn't matter how good the script was he was going to ruin it since he's basically the main character. Neeson and MacGregor were fine and probably did the best they could with what they had, but Natalie Portman was not good in this IMO. I've been a fan of hers since I watched The Professional way back when it came out so it's nothing against her either. Obviously, the story left a lot to be desired, but I think with a more capable lead actor that parts 2 and 3 would have been considerably better. Part 1 was a clusterfrick and I don't think much could have been done to salvage it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:18 pm to
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There was no central character. Obi-Wan should have been the central character but they goofed by leaving him on the ship on tatooine.


A nice progression could have been - Qi Gon Jin protagonist/Palpatine antagonist - first movie plot " A disturbance in the force"

-> Obi Wan protagonist/Palpatine antagonist - second movie plot "The Clone Wars" (introduce Anakin at this point as an adult, elite fighter pilot)

-> Obi Wan protagonist/Vader antagonist - perhaps have Palpatine go away for a while to regroup after capturing Anakin right at the end of the second film and pick up with the turning process here - have Obi Wan and some of the surviving Jedi from the "Clone Wars" scouring the galaxy for him. They find him "rescue" him at the end of the second act and the remainder of the film is him whacking all the rest of the Jedi, and Yoda/Obi Wan hiding Leia and taking it on the lam at the end.

"A Disturbance in the Force"

"The Clone Wars"

"The Rise of the Sith"

Any high schooler can outline a better story than was presented by this billionaire, out of touch "creative genius."

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:09 pm to
You should watch any series in the order they were released. The prequels rely on knowledge of the first movies. So watch the original trilogy and then watch the prequels.

The prequels are pretty terrible, but I'm not a Star Wars superfan so their existence doesn't bother me or anything. I just think they aren't very good.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14061 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:21 pm to
Being included at the beginning of a movie has nothing to do with a central character. Anakin was the main central character. The entire movie was revolving around him and every audience member knew that.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26191 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:24 pm to
I trust Baloos opinion.

My fiancée has never seen any of the Star Wars and I am researching the best way to binge watch
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