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re: Oppenheimer | Official Reaction Thread | Spoilers
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:01 am to athenslife101
Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:01 am to athenslife101
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The Harry Truman scene was atrocious. That shouldn’t have made it into the movie. It felt really really out of place
Supposedly that's close to what really happened. I think it was to show the level to which Oppenheimer was shunned for having serious reservations about proliferation. It turns out Oppenheimer was the one who was right as well.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 3:03 am
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Posted on 7/22/23 at 4:07 am to RollTide1987
My son and I went on Thursday. It was unbelievable. What an all star cast. I watched To End All War on the Peacock last night to learn more about Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project. Recommend that as well.
Oppenheimer Documentaries
Oppenheimer Documentaries
Posted on 7/22/23 at 4:32 am to touchdownjeebus
My wife said the same thing. Screw that exercism noise. That damn music tho
Posted on 7/22/23 at 4:33 am to The Eric
IMAX at AMC mall of Louisiana Baton Rouge
Posted on 7/22/23 at 4:38 am to Supravol22
I hope Truman wasn’t like this in real life, because I thought he came across as an arrogant prick.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 5:41 am to athenslife101
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The Harry Truman scene was atrocious. That shouldn’t have made it into the movie. It felt really really out of place
That scene came straight from the book
Posted on 7/22/23 at 6:15 am to Soft_Parade
Went down the YouTube rabbit hole last night and it's pretty crazy how much money we spent on these processing factories for the radioactive materials on theories that they might work and when they had no idea if the bomb was even possible yet.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 6:20 am to Gorilla Ball
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I hope Truman wasn’t like this in real life, because I thought he came across as an arrogant prick.
Well, Truman was very pro-bomb and wanted the scientists of Los Alamos to start working on the Hydrogen Bomb as soon as it became apparent that the Russians had built and successfully tested an atomic bomb. He was also the man who made the decision to drop the bomb on the Japanese.
Imagine an egghead scientist coming into your office and claiming that he had blood on his hands due to a program that you green lit to be used. By extension, this scientist is insulting YOU and saying that YOU have blood on your hands.
You'd probably get pretty defensive and angry as well.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 7:00 am to Gorilla Ball
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I hope Truman wasn’t like this in real life, because I thought he came across as an arrogant prick.
There are various accounts of what Truman told Oppenheimer in that meeting and how he characterized him in the years that followed. Allegedly he did call Oppenheimer a “crybaby scientist” in a letter and other derogatory terms in other conversations. The scene in the movie was dramaticized for effect.
One account suggests that with Truman saying the Russians would “never” have a bomb showed Truman was out of his depth, and Oppenheimer passive-aggressively let him know that - and that put him on Truman’s shite list for good.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 7:04 am
Posted on 7/22/23 at 7:49 am to RollTide1987
Watched it last night.
I wasn’t disappointed and my expectations were sky high.
Probably Nolan’s most coherent story yet.
His best movie so far in my humble opinion.
Really really good movie.
I told my wife if it weren’t for that one pointless sex scene, I’d bring my daughter to see it today.
I wasn’t disappointed and my expectations were sky high.
Probably Nolan’s most coherent story yet.
His best movie so far in my humble opinion.
Really really good movie.
I told my wife if it weren’t for that one pointless sex scene, I’d bring my daughter to see it today.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 8:27 am to jdd48
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that's close to what really happened.
It’s extremely close to what happened. He called Oppenheimer a cry baby and kicked him out irl
Posted on 7/22/23 at 8:53 am to Hailstate15
I'm reading more and more that the last act is basically McCarthyite bullshite, for which, in the present day and age of Democrat McCarthyism on steroids, I have no patience. Please tell me how bad is the political posturing in last act?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 8:55 am to HueyLongJr
It’s all true though what 
I wont spoil but anything in the last act regarding politics is damn close to what actually happened. Yes the red scare is mentioned. Why would it not be?
I wont spoil but anything in the last act regarding politics is damn close to what actually happened. Yes the red scare is mentioned. Why would it not be?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:09 am to HueyLongJr
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I'm reading more and more that the last act is basically McCarthyite bullshite, for which, in the present day and age of Democrat McCarthyism on steroids, I have no patience. Please tell me how bad is the political posturing in last act?
You sound like a sky-screamer. Those events happened, no matter what you “feel” like today.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:26 am to Artificial Intel
You sound like a Nolan fanboi. Sorry, but not paying money to see how bad Oppie got treated by McCarthyism (I know the story well), when I'm told daily that using the "wrong" pronoun is literally "violence".
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:28 am to HueyLongJr
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Please tell me how bad is the political posturing in last act?
None
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:30 am to HueyLongJr
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I'm reading more and more that the last act is basically McCarthyite bullshite, for which, in the present day and age of Democrat McCarthyism on steroids, I have no patience. Please tell me how bad is the political posturing in last act?
Well how much is made dramatic and how much is genuine is up for debate. But some of the accurate things would be:
Roger Robb was an aggressive prosecutor in the Oppenheimer Q-clearance hearings and the movie scenes are taken almost entirely from the transcripts of those hearings;
Strauss was a self-serving insecure prick who rubbed a lot of people the wrong way (despite the actual good things he did) and had a personal vendetta against Oppenheimer for publicly humiliating him over the isotopes question, among other things;
David Hill (and other scientists) testified before the Senate about Strauss’ extensive efforts to discredit Oppenheimer, and the scenes in the movie are taken largely from the Senate transcripts. Strauss had enemies in the Senate and that was the fuel they needed to deny him the Commerce Secretary position. JFK was one of those who voted against him. Strauss’ previous influence had made this hearing a formality, it was thought, but it went off the rails once his pettiness, grudge holding, and vindictiveness came to light.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 9:39 am
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:34 am to HueyLongJr
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You sound like a Nolan fanboi. Sorry, but not paying money to see how bad Oppie got treated by McCarthyism (I know the story well), when I'm told daily that using the "wrong" pronoun is literally "violence".
You're the one arguing about the politics of a movie you haven't seen.
There's literally nothing promoting communism in the movie.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:41 am to ohiovol
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You're the one arguing about the politics of a movie you haven't seen.
Put down the moonshine, hillbilly. I asked an honest question about the movie from the people who saw it. Not making an argument. Oppenheimer was both an a-hole and treated roughly by his political opponents. He did great things and was a questionable patriot. My question was whether his rough treatment was depicted as McCarthyite bullshite, because in reality it was a lot more complex.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:44 am to HueyLongJr
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Put down the moonshine, hillbilly. I asked an honest question about the movie from the people who saw it. Not making an argument. Oppenheimer was both an a-hole and treated roughly by his political opponents. He did great things and was a questionable patriot. My question was whether his rough treatment was depicted as McCarthyite bullshite, because in reality it was a lot more complex.
This doesn't seem like somebody coming to ask an honest question:
quote:
You sound like a Nolan fanboi. Sorry, but not paying money to see how bad Oppie got treated by McCarthyism (I know the story well), when I'm told daily that using the "wrong" pronoun is literally "violence".
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 9:50 am
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