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re: Oppenheimer | Official Reaction Thread | Spoilers
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:47 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:47 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Confusing mess?
Yea most decent movies that cover history are going to be confusing for idiots.
My BFF asked me before the movie which war we dropped the bomb in. “Vietnam”?
FML.
Yea most decent movies that cover history are going to be confusing for idiots.
My BFF asked me before the movie which war we dropped the bomb in. “Vietnam”?
FML.
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Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:49 am to HueyLongJr
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Oppenheimer was both an a-hole and treated roughly by his political opponents. He did great things and was a questionable patriot. My question was whether his rough treatment was depicted as McCarthyite bullshite, because in reality it was a lot more complex.
I know you weren’t replying to me and I’m about as conservative as they come - but my two cents are the movie effectively explored all the nuances of those in opposition to Oppenheimer. From how he got on the bad side of Truman and others for questioning the future of nuclear weapons, to Teller’s basically disavowing him for their differing beliefs (and for Teller wanting to proceed with H-bomb development and being rewarded for it), to how Oppenheimer’s past relationships with known and suspected communists was an albatross around his neck, just to name a few.
To me, the film just stated those things as facts (which they were) and offered no commentary on whether they were right or wrong…only demonstrating the effects they had on Oppenheimer. Some may view it differently.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:52 am to Mister Completely
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To me, the film just stated those things as facts (which they were) and offered no commentary on whether they were right or wrong…only demonstrating the effects they had on Oppenheimer. Some may view it differently.
On a movie completely about Oppenheimer, of course you sort of few his actions somewhat favorable. But the movie pulled no punches about his character. So it is very fair, it basically shows the facts. Not sure how anyone can truly have a complaint.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:53 am to RollTide1987
I give it an 8.5/10. The main reason it's not a 9/10 is due to the moment everyone was waiting for, and was hyped up by even Nolan himself, was 'meh' at best. Everything else was awesome, and the ending was thought-provoking
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:59 am to UltimaParadox
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But the movie pulled no punches about his character. So it is very fair, it basically shows the facts. Not sure how anyone can truly have a complaint.
Exactly. I thought it showed equal sides of his brilliance and his foibles and downright faults, and leaves the viewer to decide what they take away from it. Hero, anti hero, reliable narrator, imperfect genius, dilettante, questionable parent, philanderer, and so on. This isn’t a “by the numbers” hero story.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:26 am to STLhog
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Confusing mess? Yea most decent movies that cover history are going to be confusing for idiots.
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LSU Grad Alabama Fan
On brand for any retard who would proudly wear this badge
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Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:40 am to HueyLongJr
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Put down the moonshine, hillbilly. I asked an honest question about the movie from the people who saw it. Not making an argument. Oppenheimer was both an a-hole and treated roughly by his political opponents. He did great things and was a questionable patriot. My question was whether his rough treatment was depicted as McCarthyite bullshite, because in reality it was a lot more complex.
Lol
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was a questionable patriot.
How many bombs did you build for the U.S. to knowingly use against our enemies? None? You’re less a patriot than him.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:06 am to jdd48
Idontcare how close it was. The execution on Truman was way off. Truman reminded me of the rooster in looney tunes
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:17 am to athenslife101
Saw it last night and loved it. The scene where he’s giving the speech after the first bomb was dropped and how the rumbling of the crowd parallels the bomb impact / fallout was awesome. Ending was spot on and wrapped it up perfectly.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
Saw it last night. Couple of things.
The Trinity Explosion was great.
Wanted to see the bombs dropped off a plane on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but knowing Hollywoods politics not surprising.
Didn't expect the loudest scene of the movie to be when they were stomping on the bleachers
The Trinity Explosion was great.
Wanted to see the bombs dropped off a plane on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but knowing Hollywoods politics not surprising.
Didn't expect the loudest scene of the movie to be when they were stomping on the bleachers
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:13 pm to Erdace
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Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:18 pm to Erdace
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Wanted to see the bombs dropped off a plane on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but knowing Hollywoods politics not surprising.
It wasn’t about politics. It was to show you they didn’t need him anymore. He had given them what they wanted and the bomb was no longer his. A common theme leading up to that moment and carried out to completion in the final third.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:38 pm to Erdace
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Wanted to see the bombs dropped off a plane on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but knowing Hollywoods politics not surprising.
We all know what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It wouldn’t have served the story whatsoever to show that. I thought it was way more impactful to show Oppenheimer asking Groves if he should go to Washington with him after the bomb was built, and Groves asking him “why?”
That was more of what the story was about. And then him waiting around by the phone for Groves to call.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:40 pm to Mister Completely
Right. They had used him for his purpose and then discarded him.
It wasn’t about the bombs, it was about Oppenheimer.
We got to see what happened to people when the bombs dropped through his waking nightmares, and his guilt.
It wasn’t about the bombs, it was about Oppenheimer.
We got to see what happened to people when the bombs dropped through his waking nightmares, and his guilt.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:46 pm to Fun Bunch
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They had used him for his purpose and then discarded him.
And Nolan nailed this aspect. Tone of movie and people around Oppenheimer after the bomb was ready to go completely changed.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:51 pm to RollTide1987
Gotta say how surprised I am that I did not like this movie.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:09 pm to athenslife101
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Idontcare how close it was. The execution on Truman was way off.
Except it wasn’t. You just said yourself you dont care how accurate it was then proceeded to say it wasn’t accurate.
What?
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:25 pm to John_V
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The main reason it's not a 9/10 is due to the moment everyone was waiting for, and was hyped up by even Nolan himself, was 'meh' at best. Everything else was awesome, and the ending was thought-provoking
To me, the bomb test in the movie was authentic. It didn’t feel like some Avengers get together because it isn’t supposed to. The movie is about Oppenheimer and not the bombs.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:29 pm to Hailstate15
What struck me was that the score never stopped the entire movie, there was constant sound.
Until…that moment. Silence. And then the bang. It made the scene so incredibly visceral and effective.
Until…that moment. Silence. And then the bang. It made the scene so incredibly visceral and effective.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:34 pm to Fun Bunch
Exactly. I hate using cliches but the silence in that scene was deafening. Everything in that scene and after the fact was executed to perfection.
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