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re: Official The Walking Dead Season Finale S4E16 "A" :Thread **NO SPOILERS/COMICS
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:15 am to CocomoLSU
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:15 am to CocomoLSU
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I think there has to be something more to it for Rick to be SO confident while locked in the train car.
I watched the first half of talking dead and I think that confidence was part of an attempt to show the character growth. Rick has finally reconciled his brutal side with his human side and has both under control. That confidence came from vamp killing a guy that was holding a gun to his head 15 seconds before. A prison seems like a pretty low level threat compared to a gun to the head.
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:15 am to Libertyabides71
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The show itself confirmed they are cannibals.
No it didn't. It just gave clues toward that conclusion.
I understand why you're saying that, but it hasn't been "confirmed."
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:16 am to CocomoLSU
don't get me started 
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:16 am to imjustafatkid
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Maybe they try to recruit people by finding ones who are willing to eat humans?
Thats what I think. They offer them a plate and see their reactions then inform them later after a meal or two what they were eating and see who in a sense "comes to the dark side."
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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but you still have the "high points" and storylines that the comics used. that final scene in the comics is a dead giveaway
You should look closer at that panel. It will show you some things that are clearly different.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:17 am to imjustafatkid
So if you have never read the comics but are not a complete internet illiterate so you have read others speculations and possible outcomes do you debate in the tv thread or the comic thread.
Technically you have never read the comic but you may have knowledge that could be seen as a spoiler so the readers will know more than you when you discuss but the tv watchers will claim you are posting spoilers.
It's a catch 22. I have theories on terminus and it's from reading cast members remarks on what they believe but I will not debate because it could be comic source material I don't know.
Technically you have never read the comic but you may have knowledge that could be seen as a spoiler so the readers will know more than you when you discuss but the tv watchers will claim you are posting spoilers.
It's a catch 22. I have theories on terminus and it's from reading cast members remarks on what they believe but I will not debate because it could be comic source material I don't know.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:18 am to TigerinATL
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Which makes no sense because there are reader threads that seem to be fairly active.
Yup.
It's just that they feel the need (that's the only word really...need) to be in here with nonreaders guiding our interpretation of the show. And that's completely assholish IMO.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:18 am to imjustafatkid
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You should look closer at that panel. It will show you some things that are clearly different.
who is claiming that things are the same?
that's irrelevant. you know what storyline that panel was associated with. you are making a DIRECT correlation b/w that storyline and Terminus. that is the entire point
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:18 am to CocomoLSU
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I think that was most of it, sure. But I think there has to be something more to it for Rick to be SO confident while locked in the train car. Also, there wasn't much of a reason to show the farming flashback unless it connects to something now (similar to the setting of the trap equating them being trapped/chased/hunted in Terminus).
Possibly, but I took it as more of them showing the path of Rick
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:18 am to bulldog95
For some reason these folks don't even like you to discuss things that were mentioned in interviews with cast members or the show creator. It's pretty sad.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:19 am to bulldog95
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So if you have never read the comics but are not a complete internet illiterate so you have read others speculations and possible outcomes do you debate in the tv thread or the comic thread.
Technically you have never read the comic but you may have knowledge that could be seen as a spoiler so the readers will know more than you when you discuss but the tv watchers will claim you are posting spoilers.
It's a catch 22.
bro
in the GoT blu ray they have "histories and lore of westeros" and i specifically asked if using knowledge gained from those would be an issue. people said they did not want to discuss things outside of what was on HBO at the time, so it was left out out of respect
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:20 am to CocomoLSU
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with nonreaders guiding our interpretation of the show.
and their interpretations are based on
...drumroll...
major scenes/stories from the comics
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Dammit, I can't even come and read the last page of this "No Spoiler" thread without seeing fricking spoilers. frick this. I'm out.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:20 am to CocomoLSU
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No it didn't. It just gave clues toward that conclusion.
I understand why you're saying that, but it hasn't been "confirmed."
I came to the conclusion they are cannibals entirely based on what I saw on the show. I hated the hunter arc in the comic myself. Like I said I had vested interest Terminus would be something else entirely. That maybe Rick would think something is fishy, because he is jumpy after the other encounters.
It was only confirmed once I saw what I saw in the show. That is my point, saying they aren't cannibals now is just being contrary.
If I wanted to spoil I would have said that Terminus was the Hunters back when we first heard the message in Episode 3/4? But I wanted Terminus to be something else entirely. Terminus of course being an original name for Atlanta and being in the Buckhead area I thought it point to a safe affluent suburb.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:20 am to imjustafatkid
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I think we did but I'm not sold on what's happening with Beth.
I think she's alive. They already had a whole season of "What happened to Carol's daughter?" I don't think they rehash that with Beth.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's irrelevant. you know what storyline that panel was associated with. you are making a DIRECT correlation b/w that storyline and Terminus. that is the entire point
I think they're making it obvious in this episode that these folks are cannibals. That last scene would add to that for comic readers but everything else in this episode and the ones leading up to it should also make it obvious to anyone who watches tv and is capable of critical thinking. It would be silly to put such effort into setting that up just to go in a different direction.
That said, they haven't even begun filming next season yet so no one really knows if that will be the case or not.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:22 am to TigerinATL
Yup. I think Ricks confidence comes from his most recent triumph and knowing the strength and resilience of those with him. I think there is definitely foreshadowing also. The rabbit trap for sure. "The new sheriff in town"- I think there's something to that. They've prepared us to realize Beth is much more than a babysitter now. IMO her storyline presently is non-Terminus related. I do think she'll play a part in their rescue. Is there more to the hat? I don't think so but you never know.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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at least the GoT literates are much more respectful and honest about it than tWD literates
other than the Red Wedding, they've behaved themselves for the most part after season 1
I wish NONE of them would post in nonreader threads, and that won't happen unless Chicken intervenes I assume...but there are some solid GoT posters (like TigerinNY, manwich, etc.) who manage to not be in the threads without posting their own thoughts). As much as I wish they'd avoid posting, at least they aren't confirming shite or guiding nonreaders' interpretations.
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but i KNOW what is going on with tWD b/c i have started to read their thread and google shite about it just to prepare for this argument. i'm not going to get into details but yeah, the literates are spoiling shite
You're almost hypocritical then.
I know you haven't read the comics, but you've googled big spoilers. So you're capable of doing the very thing they are doing.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:24 am to CocomoLSU
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And that's completely assholish IMO.
So is your opinion
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:24 am to geauxjo
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I think Ricks confidence comes from his most recent triumph and knowing the strength and resilience of those with him
i think Rick just had to realize he couldn't be a pussy peacemaker anymore and accepted reality again
the prison was a brief escape from that reality, so it was fine to become farmer rick. the prison is done. herschel is dead. he has to face reality again and can't keep running away from it
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