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re: Official Justified: City Primeval Discussion Thread - Premiers Tonight

Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:47 am to
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4595 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:47 am to
I have a feeling that Mansell's hot girlfriend is going to help Raylan out somehow. She's getting fed up with his bullshite, she's ready to go to Aruba and smoke some good weed
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32544 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 11:36 am to
I do agree that episode 6 was better.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5413 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 3:17 pm to
The last episode was a big improvement. I am really needing to see Raylan take someone down. I felt like in the original series even if the story didn't call for it they would just bring some random guy in every so often to be shot or outsmarted by Raylan.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10722 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:17 pm to
I came very close to turning this lame show off when Raylan's love interest told a random 1960s civil rights lunch counter story to make a point about right and wrong.

Way, way, way too contrived.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20846 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 9:58 pm to
This show sucks, Oliphant should have peached out on this script.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I came very close to turning this lame show off when Raylan's love interest told a random 1960s civil rights lunch counter story to make a point about right and wrong. Way, way, way too contrived.


Maybe that’s why the audience that this show was originally targeted towards have a problem with it, but the people that watched the original series also have a problem with it.
Some people pay bills and some don’t.

The original Justified before the world went to shite in a hand basket was just fine.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21824 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 10:46 pm to
I got to four episodes in and I'm out. This show sucks.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

I got to four episodes in and I'm out. This show sucks.


Good for you because FX and Tim didn’t get the message. The original episodes compared to this mess, is a mess within itself. It’s one thing to watch something in name only, it’s another thing to watch something that can’t take it’s self seriously.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12914 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:09 am to
Everything you guys are saying is true but I'm still watching simply because there is absolutely nothing else on. Maybe I'm nostalgic but Rayland is the OG
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115462 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 6:08 pm to
Best episode of the series to date.

But it's not Justified and he's not Raylan Givens.

Perhaps that will change in the next two episodes.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9384 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 8:24 pm to
Last episode was better. Series sucks but the last episode was good. Hopefully it’ll finish strong
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11072 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Last episode was better. Series sucks but the last episode was good. Hopefully it’ll finish strong


I bet they do some heavy fan service in the last few episodes.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28555 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:41 pm to
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Raylan dipped his dick into the chocolate



Just finished episode 4, and came here to confirm that this Hallmark special of a series didn’t go there. Instead you confirmed that it did. Raylan never would hook up with ugly fatties. They don’t get his character at all, and they forced this stupid SJW hookup on us for the sake of the agenda.


Yup, I’m done. I’ll just continue to rewatch the GOAT original justified. The dregs can have this one

Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28555 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

I got to four episodes in and I'm out. This show sucks.



I’m right there with you. My all time favorite series just got plot raped and I got MeToo’d. I’m letting my brain’s defense mechanism do it’s job and erasing this crap from my memory bank.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6715 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:54 am to
They should never have called this Justified, because it isn't on any level. To do so is insulting. It's the equivalent of pissing on our boots and telling us it's raining.

Instead, they should have just called this City Primeval, and let the lead character be Detective Raymond Cruz, as it was originally written by Leonard. It should have been a stand alone series. Perhaps then it could have spun off into a bunch of other Raymond Cruz stories.

If Timothy Olyphant and the directors would have thought he could pull off being Cruz, then let him go for it. Otherwise, put someone else altogether in the role.

They wanted to capitalize on the success of Justified to get the old fans on board. It lead to a huge disappointment because the two characters are just not at all alike.

For the record, I too have given up on the show. I don't even know if I'd still be watching it strictly as City Primeval at this point.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 10:37 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28555 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 11:36 am to
You nailed it with your entire post. I will add one other nugget to the "this is not Raylan" examples: He makes he daughter sleep on a freaking cot while he gets the comfy bed.

No father does this to his daughter, and especially not one who's been shown time and again to go out of his way for the people in his life. What shitty arse writing.


Are these the same showrunners as the OGJustified? It sure as shite does not feel that way.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:50 pm to
The gun that Mansell killed Sweety with, is that the gun that was supposed to be hidden behind the jukebox?

Nevermind, question answered.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:26 pm to
Can someone explain why Raylan went with the Albanians and why they would want him in the first place?
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9384 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:16 pm to
So the lawyer is working with the Albanians? Why did the Albanian drop the gun in the river? So the female cop is compromised, but why? What does Mansell have over her?
End of the last episode left me confused.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:08 pm to
Because the Albanians would rather torture/murder Mansell then have him go to prison.
I assume the female cop is in the judge's black book.

I bet they kidnapped Sandy too and now have the book.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 7:27 pm
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