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re: Official Falcon and the Winter Soldier Episode 5 Discussion Thread
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:56 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:56 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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Actually, I'm pretty sure his sister did. In the first episode, when they were arguing about selling the boat Sam tells her something like, "it became my business when you tied the house into the loan".
Man I totally forgot about this. Now it makes perfect sense why they can't get a loan.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 4/21/21 at 1:57 pm to lostinbr
well, fricking said sir - I for one was happy he gave it to Sam - i'm ready to see him as Cap
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:03 pm to BigAppleTiger
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You don't get to decide that. Hundreds of videos in the last few years are still available for everyone to look at and see. They are all online-check it out sometime. Hell, if you can read this website and dismiss racism you're either willfully ignorant or participating yourself. It has nothing to do with you save for your gaslighting. There are extremes on the left which see racism in everything- a flawed view. You are their counterpart which sees it in nothing- also a flawed view.
wow.....Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:03 pm to Thracken13
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well, fricking said sir - I for one was happy he gave it to Sam - i'm ready to see him as Cap
I think Rian Johnson directed the last episode. They'll probably just kill off Sam and give the shield to his sister instead.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:03 pm to CarRamrod
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wow.....
Yep. Some of the folks in this thread truly have their heads in the sand.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:06 pm to imjustafatkid
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Yep. Some of the folks in this thread truly have their heads in the sand.
Speaking of, you ever gonna tell us how you expected Isaiah to get to Sokovia?
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:21 pm to ThoseGuys
quote:agreed
Is racism as bad as the left and media wants to portray? Absolutely not.
quote:that happens when you are called a racist dor literally doing nothing.
But the right has gotten so overprotective of being called a racist that now they refuse to acknowledge it exist
This day and age people dont hate other people due to racism they hate people because they are prejudice and usually for good reason. People dont like the George Floyd's of the world, not because he is black, but because he is a druggie criminal doing druggie criminal things. I do feel all of this is creating racism again but that is by design.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:33 pm to hth52
quote:Into the Spiderverse was great. he was black. got a bit of flack but being it was a well made movie it got the applause it deserved.
They are on their 3rd Peter Parker in 20 years. Morales is a sensible next step.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:38 pm to Esquire
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Speaking of, you ever gonna tell us how you expected Isaiah to get to Sokovia?
This line of rebuttal simply makes no sense. There were many opportunities for him to get involved in an extinction-level event before now.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:41 pm to imjustafatkid
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This line of rebuttal simply makes no sense.
Your initial statement made no sense, which is why you’ve ignored all the replies to it until now.
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There were many opportunities for him to get involved in an extinction-level event before now.
Which ones? Be specific.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:51 pm to Salmon
quote:whats funny is he is posting just how i know my boy Salman posts.
Dude. You do this in almost every single thread on the MTB.
There are a handful of posters on this board that just cannot help themselves. You are one of them.
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Everyone else is mad that I'm right.
whatever you need to tell yourself
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:54 pm to illuminatic
quote:it happened in The Rocketeer with the FBI and the mob fighting against the Nazis at the end.
the idea of a gangster movie where they band together to fight aliens invading the planet
It kind of exists. Attack the Block is close but it's the London projects and not street gangs.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 2:58 pm to Esquire
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Your initial statement made no sense, which is why you’ve ignored all the replies to it until now.
It was replied to multiple times.
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Which ones? Be specific.
You kidding? Even if you take the totally stupid stance that travel would be difficult for this man, New York is only 3 hours from Baltimore. How about you think about things for 2 seconds before asking me to do it for you?
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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This line of rebuttal simply makes no sense. There were many opportunities for him to get involved in an extinction-level event before now.
You do realize that unless he had specific intel regarding these events, he would have had no idea that these things were occuring. He would find out the same time everyone else was while shite is hitting the fan on the news. These extinction-level events happen extremely quickly, hence people didn't have time to prepare, evacuate, etc. He had no connection with Shield, the Avengers, the military, etc.
He's a poor elderly man. tf is he supposed to do, go get in his old beat-up, worn down, pickup truck and go drive all the way to New York? That's not halfway likely.
During the events of Avengers 1 and other world events, Isaiah more than likely grabbed his gun and stood on the ready to protect his home, grandchildren and community in case anything went down in Baltimore. That sounds much more likely instead of your scenario.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:04 pm to imjustafatkid
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Even if you take the totally stupid stance that travel would be difficult for this man, New York is only 3 hours from Baltimore.
By the time Isaiah finally made it to New York. The Avengers would be just walking out of the Shwarma restaraunt.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:24 pm to QJenk
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By the time Isaiah finally made it to New York. The Avengers would be just walking out of the Shwarma restaraunt.
Exactly. Now let’s see fatkid get him to Sokovia, Germany, and outside of New York again.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:26 pm to imjustafatkid
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Even if you take the totally stupid stance that travel would be difficult for this man,
He is poor, elderly, and in hiding from the government. I’m not the one with a stupid arse stance here.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:32 pm to imjustafatkid
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This line of rebuttal simply makes no sense. There were many opportunities for him to get involved in an extinction-level event before now.
You can use this for literally every Marvel movie from here on out.
For example, why was Ant-Man and the Pyms working on the quantum tunnel and cracking jokes while an invasion was going on?
At the end of the day, these are movies/tv shows about super heroes that both for logistical reasons and to tell these stories, you have to not critically think every damn thing in these.
If this were real life, all of these heroes would be responding at the same time to every threat.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 4/21/21 at 4:37 pm to moneyg
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Some? Who? 50% were saved by the effort given by the Avengers, and the other 50% had family members and friends saved. It's fricking retarded to find it reasonable to return to a pre-snap, racial injustice view of the world.
Wait, what? You think it's dumb that when everyone came back they would just give up the prejudices they had before they were snapped? There was no 5-year gap for them or for Sam. They never lived in the world that had changed in 5-years.
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Obviously, Isaiah has a reason to be pissed. It's a personal reason. It's not because he was black. Bucky was tortured, experimented on, brainwashed, etc.
We've learned in the MCU that the shadow government is evil. This isn't news. And, it isn't (hasn't) been a reflection of America. In fact, the effort has been to rid the government of Hydra and restore America.
Yes, but both the comics and the show are clearly drawing parallels to actual experiments that were conducted on black soldiers against their will. It's more than just "bad government in fictional world experiments on whoever it likes." For Isaiah and for the creators of the comics and show it was 100% because he was black.
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It's unreasonable. Sam entered the Avengers with a black man fricking running Shield. A black man was Iron Man's #1 counterpart. And, himself, because a valuable member quickly.
So a black guy ran a shadow organization that wasn't a public figure, one black guy was Iron Man's sidekick, and Falcon was basically Captain America's sidekick? None of that is the equivalent of being the entire "face" of the United States. In the MCU, Captain America is basically a real life Uncle Sam. That's a lot of pressure and requires a lot more acceptance from the general public than being like the 16th most popular Avenger.
The whole Walker arch is about him not being able to carry the mantle and having a mental breakdown because of the pressure.
Don't get me wrong. I think in the MCU and in real life that Americans would be more than willing to accept a black person in that role (if it existed in real life obviously). But in no way is it stupid for Sam to hesitate.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:01 pm to lostinbr
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seemed pretty clear to me that Sam's primary reason for hesitating had nothing to do with being black. he didn't think anybody (white or black) was worthy of filling Steve's shoes. Which is why he donated the shield to the Smithsonian - out of respect for Steve's legacy.
THIS would have been a good storyline. But it went the other way...all the way to the point where Bucky was apologizing on behalf of himself and Steve for not thinking about how a black man would feel being Captain America.
How fricking audacious of the two of them for never considering race when offering the mantle of Captain America.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 7:24 pm
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