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re: OFFICIAL - The Dark Knight Rises Discussion Thread - *SPOILERS*
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:51 pm to CGB Spender
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:51 pm to CGB Spender
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But nothing, absolutely nothing in this film is "lazy"
I disagree.
The trilogy shouldn't have ended with the exceptionally cliched premise of a ticking time bomb. The fact that the story was constructed around this premise was lazy and unimaginative.
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Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:53 pm to TigerWerm
Kashonly, you go from spelling Bane to Bain 3 or 4 different times in your post. 
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:53 pm to CGB Spender
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It was the murderous dent or an innocent ten year old boy
It was talia or 7 million people and he ran her truck off to get the nuke. He did not do it with the intent of killing her
And as for Ra's, he kind of broke his rule. He just wouldn't risk his own life to save a man who would probably try and kill them both in mid flight or while grappling
So you agree with me...it is a loosely interpreted rule.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:53 pm to CGB Spender
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I get not liking this movie. In fact I Don't know how I feel about it.
Glad I am not the only one left feeling that way. Maybe there was too much expectation. Not sure I will see it again until it comes out on DVD. I changed my mind at the last minute about doint the marathon - decided I could not sit in a theater that long. Could have done it 30 yrs ago, but not now. Glad I went Friday afternoon instead. Left theater feeling a little underwhelmed.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:55 pm to FairhopeTider
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Not showing how Bruce got back into Gotham is kinda lazy.
Or it might have been a considered choice about not adding a few more minutes to runtime for something that is ultimately irrelevant to the point of the story.
Not to meation possibly detrimental to the story. The fact they they could smuggle that many special forces at least shows there was enough traffic to slip in.
Might have hid under a semi truck as they rode in
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:57 pm to Scoob
Batman was stabbed in his side with a dagger by the woman he finally trusted and wanted to love; what's wrong with the emotion he showed?
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:57 pm to Siderophore
Sounds like a number of us left feeling that the show perhaps left something to be desired.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:57 pm to Polar Bear
Well give us another premise. One of the few series in the history of film that pulled off a successful trilogy and it gets lazy tags because of a ticking bomb. Just because it's been done before doesn't mean it's lazy. Maybe they should have used a missile like The Avebgers and it would have been imaginate and original. Very lazy on Nolan's part to have Bane go out the way he did, by having Catwoman comeback and kill him. Give me a break dude.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:58 pm to Tom288
Too short to get out? No.
They aren't stupid.
If you want to have a concrete reason other than fear, think about the extra weight of the rope you have to leap with.
They aren't stupid.
If you want to have a concrete reason other than fear, think about the extra weight of the rope you have to leap with.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 1:59 pm to Polar Bear
The prison set looked painstaking to make
The shot with the planes wasn't easy
Getting a major section of manhattan closed to shoot
Like I said, laziness is not a legit criticism (there are plenty of things that are) of this film
Laziness is a legit criticism of batman forever, batman and robin, the star wars prequels, etc...pretty much fast tracked crap made for the sole purpose of milking something
It is clear from watching this movie that Christopher Nolan's sole intention was to make a great movie, whether he succeeded or not is up for debate
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:01 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Maybe they should have used a missile like The Avebgers and it would have been imaginate and original.
Uh, it's essentially the same concept. City will be blown to bits if we don't get the nuke away from the city, so let's have our hero sacrifice his life by diverting the bomb away from the city.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:01 pm to Polar Bear
Furthermore, Nolan isn't a fan of directors cuts, but I think we'll be seeing an extended edition of this one. To make everything crystal clear for everyone about everything this movie would have to be at least 3 hours and 15 minutes
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:01 pm to Siderophore
I think going down the stretch the thing that will stick in my craw is not knowing how Batman could have gotten clear.
We SEE him in the cockpit with limited time left.
Even if he ejected then, there wouldn't have been time to get under the water to hope to survive the blast.
Then you have the long arse swim to shore with crippling worn down wounds, along with fresh ones from the battle.
We SEE him in the cockpit with limited time left.
Even if he ejected then, there wouldn't have been time to get under the water to hope to survive the blast.
Then you have the long arse swim to shore with crippling worn down wounds, along with fresh ones from the battle.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:01 pm to Siderophore
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Not showing how Bruce got back into Gotham is kinda lazy.
I think most people are forgetting that this is a movie. Not real life. You cannot touch on every freaking thing. Let's show a scene of Batman swimming back. Or a helicopter picking him up. Or a coast guard. That was part of the surprise by NOT showing him getting back. Dear god. It would have completely taken away from the shock factor. Hey let's make people think he was dead for a whopping two seconds. This is hilarious.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:03 pm to Polar Bear
That was the point. You don't hear anybody complaint about that. Way to shy away from the rest of the post.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:04 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Not showing how Bruce got back into Gotham is kinda lazy.
Like I said the studios would never let this thing be 3 hours or more which is what it would take to include every little thing
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:04 pm to iwyLSUiwy
He is referring to how he got from the prison to Gotham...past the blockades.
But in case he wasn't.
Not like Nokan hasn't used flashbacks to retroactively explain things.
Whatever the reason, he had to do it himself.
Everyone believes both Batman and Wayne are dead. That kills the coast guard theory
But in case he wasn't.
Not like Nokan hasn't used flashbacks to retroactively explain things.
Whatever the reason, he had to do it himself.
Everyone believes both Batman and Wayne are dead. That kills the coast guard theory
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:05 pm to Siderophore
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We SEE him in the cockpit with limited time left.
Even if he ejected then, there wouldn't have been time to get under the water to hope to survive the blast.
Then you have the long arse swim to shore with crippling worn down wounds, along with fresh ones from the battle.
Considering the Batmobile could turn into the Batpod, for all we know the Batwing could turn into a Batsub.
The thing was on autopilot, he probably ejected pretty close to shore and it's freaking Batman. I'm willing to bet he had more than a pair of flippers to get back to the shore with.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:05 pm to Siderophore
Did anyone really believe Anne Hathaway could fight grown men with ease? That really took me out of the movie. Same with Scarlett in The Avengers. It's one thing if you have someone like Gina Carona, it's another thing when it is a petite busty actress.
Posted on 7/21/12 at 2:07 pm to Siderophore
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We SEE him in the cockpit with limited time left.
We don't know that those shots are temporally aligned with the shots of the Bat going out to sea. They could be shots of him in the cockpit when he's still in the city, but were edited to give the audience the initial impression that it was a suicide mission.
This post was edited on 7/21/12 at 2:08 pm
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