re: Obtuse Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice TD review thread (SPOILERS p5+)

Also, Alfred was terrible.

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Also, Alfred was terrible.

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lol...yeah I forgot about him.

There was so much going on at the same time he got lost in the shuffle. My first thought he was WAY too young to be Alfred.

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i hope someone can find joy from this abortion.

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Fanboys on imdb seem to be loving it. They seem to believe there's some conspiracy among the critics to hate Snyder/WB/DC. They keep bringing up the critics having a bias towards Marvel and comic book films that aren't dark and gritty.

1) Critics had nothing but praise for Chris Nolan's Batman films, and even Singer's Superman Returns.

2) When a critic says there's no humor in a Zack Snyder film, they aren't saying that they want the film to be full of jokes like Marvel films. They are saying that the film lacks any sort of levity. Even Nolan's dark and gritty batman films had humor in it. For Christ's sake speaking of the holocaust, Schindler's list even had humor in it.

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Crowd in our theater clapped loudly at the end for what that's worth

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When I saw Superman in the theater in '78, the crowd applauded at the end. Then one guy shouted, "THAT SUCKED!"

As Samwise Gamgee said, "Well, I'm back." And like Samwise, I feel like I've been to Mordor as well. As I was watching the film, this scene came to my mind repeatably: LINK. I didn't care, nor did Snyder. I was bored out of my mind feeling like I was there for a job I despised. Then I actually got one good scene with Batman, and once that ended, I realized what I'd been missing out on. After that, the film turned into brutal torture.

Let me start it out on a positive note:

The Good: Casting Ben Affleck as Batman/Bruce Wayne.





Now for the Bad: Literally everything else. Henry Cavill isn't good. Amy Adams I now realize is a worse miscast than Kate Bosworth was. Jesse Eisenberg is a fricking clown, I have no idea what he was trying to accomplish during the film, and is the worst casting and idea in comic movie history. Gal Gadot is alright, but I think saying she's a standout is an direct insult to the rest of the film. Doomsday sucks as usual.

The plot is a total mess. Nothing makes sense. The narrative is sloppy as frick. We are literally told everything and shown nothing, aside from the end when people are socking each other in the face. Batman kills 20+ people. They mention like 8 times that for whatever reason the area they're dueling in and destroying doesn't have a single person in it, which makes no sense. The fights (save when Batman goes in and fricks up the criminals) are boring as frick.

But the biggest crime of this movie is that it is utterly joyless. Hey remember back in the old days of February when Deadpool came out, or maybe back in the archeological days of 2014 when Guardians of the Galaxy came out on how much fun and full of joy those movies were? In this movie there nothing save for a single scene to be excited about. Requiem for a Dream quite literally has more emotional highs than this movie. Yes, Batman and Robin is a superior film to this as well. Say what you will about it, but they put their all into it and they want you to be entertained. Go watch Arnold as Mr. Freeze and tell me you aren't entertained by it. There's nothing entertaining about this movie, only infuriating moments.

I was expecting Last Airbender or 10,000 BC bad from this, but there was nothing to target. It was just plain old shite. Those had at least some highly misguided passion to it, but this save for Affleck's performance had none. Snyder cashed it in, didn't give a single frick, and should be cast out of the industry for this abortion. This is the worst movie I've seen in 5 years. Keep Affleck and Irons, but fire everyone else.

0 out of 4 stars

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Here's my initial reaction/review:

If you are a fan of Superman or Batman or Lex Luther or Lois Lane or Doomsday or cogent and coherent storytelling, then you'll hate this movie.

If you are a fan of drinking copious amounts of alcohol and subjecting yourself to spliced bits of information being shoved into you eyeballs like dull ice picks in the hands of Kathy Bates while enjoying mindless action set to no context then you'll love this movie.

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I agree with this review.

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I'm just pissed Snyder completely ruined and butchered the doomsday plotline. He completely raped one of the biggest cannons in Superman mythology ever.

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And by the way, what a fantastic idea to start the DC Universe off with the Dark Knight Returns and the Death of Superman. I just have to wonder how fricking stupid are these people? They're not established yet, which is very much required for those comics to work. I had no idea why they were mourning Superman or why Batman was fighting Superman aside from being pissed that he destroyed his building.

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Fewer Kilometers

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I fricking loved it.

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Shocking

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What an enormous piece of shite It's awfulness is so dense and multi faceted I won't even try

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Yeah, its very easily worse than the Star Wars prequels. Very, very easily worse. Lucas has some passion and it was misguided. But it was clear he love doing the movie and making money and creative character designs from it. Snyder I only got distain from. He hates these characters and doesn't understand them. Hiring Zack Snyder to do the DC Universe is the single worst decision by a studio in the past 10 years. It was utterly retarded, and anyone who voted for him should be fired as well.