re: Movies today don’t even look and feel like “movies” at all

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Days of Thunder

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I don't know enough about movie making to know why it was different compared to how they make movies today.

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Tony fricking Scott

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Tony fricking Scott

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Just remember, Critics and uppity film snob used to say Tony Scott was popcorn/pop art, substandard 'made for the masses' shite.

Tarantino always love him, though. And that's because Tony and Ridley Scott art direction during the 80s and 90s is basically unmatched in Hollywood history.

Says of Thunder is primary example. Those frames are paintings. Tiny cane from a very callsical art school background. He was brilliant.

The lack of long lenses have also almost killed the "film" look. And Scott used them a ton.

Digital is also why everyone lights their sets like shite now. Before you could have dark scenes without deep shadows. The raised shadows now is what makes the images look so flat and washed out. With 800 native ISO cameras, you basically don't need much lighting at all, so that's what everything looks bland and dull and muddy.

Bring back sweat and texture in people's faces. Also there seems to be. A big lack of greens and brilliant outdoor atmospheric shots anymore.

It's just terrible.

This is a great thread.

Today's movies are out there looking like a monkey forking a football.

Precisely why I love Chris Nolan. All of his films feel like a true cinematic film.

And then he fricks up the sound

Most people would call Benny Safdie a multi-hyphenate, not a rapper.

I always loved the old movies in Technicolor. The Wizard of Oz, The Adventures of Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, etc.

Watching John Sayles' "Lone Star" right now on TCM.

The film was made in 1996, and Sayles was an Indie Director with absolutely no budget... And the film looked like this with $5M and Panavision cameras and lenses, likely on Kodak stock.



Literally just random cut scenes. But look at it. Primary colors. Long lenses. Sharp, yet full of depth and contracst. Hell, even the old analogue sound is crisp as lettuce.

But they shot at magic hour and there was no muddiness and actual shadows and saturation instead of lifting everything and chasing dynamic range and the softest, most even lighting possible.

Not saying digital cameras can't make wonderful images. They absolutely can. But the art of light and shadow and framing has absolutely been lost.

If may thing looked like this today, it would walk away with a cinematography Oscar. Shoot on film now (Marty Supreme, Sinners, One Battle) and it's an auto nomination now just because of how good they look. They look like films made 30 yrs ago...