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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:20 pm to Jack Bauer7
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It's not Cinema...I'd go so far as to say MArvel movies shouldn't be up for any awards either
Except those are film awards, not "cinema" awards.
Scorcese's Cinema doesn't include A LOT of stuff that is on the screen. Fantasy Movies, Slapstick comedy, Absurd Comedy, a good chunk of science fiction, anything Animated, Experimental film, etc.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:28 pm to stateofplay
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Cause I guarantee you have some films/tv shows you really love that were originally comic books but you didn't realize it because the subject wasn't men in tights.
Examples?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:36 pm to Jim Rockford
The Walking Dead
The Boys
Preacher
iZombie
The Addams Family (New Yorker comics)
Tales From The Crypt (EC comics)
Etc.
The Boys
Preacher
iZombie
The Addams Family (New Yorker comics)
Tales From The Crypt (EC comics)
Etc.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:37 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Exactly what I meant. The Layla Miller “I know stuff” volume.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Martin Scorsese
I think Wolf of Wall Street is pretty low brow, also.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
He's mostly right.
That's true of a variety of big budget franchises - Transformers, F&F (ironically, flirts with being cinema more than a lot of these), new Star Wars films, Star Trek since 2009, etc.
Nothing wrong with "theme park" versions of film - lots of fast, random action for the Millenials. They make money.
Why so offended at the notion they aren't "cinema"? They're not.
That's true of a variety of big budget franchises - Transformers, F&F (ironically, flirts with being cinema more than a lot of these), new Star Wars films, Star Trek since 2009, etc.
Nothing wrong with "theme park" versions of film - lots of fast, random action for the Millenials. They make money.
Why so offended at the notion they aren't "cinema"? They're not.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:13 pm to stateofplay
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Do you mean superheroes or comics in general?
Superheros.
There are a bunch of comic book movies I like.
Blade (1998)
Bulletproof Monk (2003)
The Crow (1994)
Heavy Metal (1981, animated)
Jonah Hex (2010)
Dredd (2012)
Kick-arse (2010)
Kingsman: The Secret Service (2015)
Men in Black (1997)
The Punisher (2004)
Road to Perdition (2002)
Sin City (2005)
Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight (1995)
Wanted (2008)
Weird Science (1985)
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:30 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Neither of you are talking abut the real X-Factor 
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
Movies aren’t just art, they’re also entertainment. And Marvel is some pretty good entertainment.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:55 pm to WeBleedCrimson
personally, and this is just my opinion, the term Cinema i believe is an outdated term, and not the "all encompassing" term it used to be. times changed, and it has been used less and less in favor or terms like movies.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:03 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Marvel movies capture Disneyland and fake movie productions with fake production...with fake green screens and fake CGI... Nothing about it is Cinema. Or film.
So just because that technology wasn’t available decades ago when “cinema” was in its golden age, that means it cannot now be included as cinema? If so, there are tons of other movies that don’t qualify as cinema, not just comic book movies.
If comic book movies ceased to exist starting tomorrow it wouldn’t bother me one bit. I’ve seen a decent chunk of them but I’m far from a “fan”. I don’t hate them, they’re fine, but I don’t really care about them. I’d choose a Scorcese movie over a comic movie any day of the week. But I just think the definition of cinema, like all art, is extremely subjective with no absolute right or wrong
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
:hesrightyouknow:
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:27 pm to teke184
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xactly what I meant. The Layla Miller “I know stuff” volume.
They ruined Layla for me when they exposed her power of knowing stuff bc she went into the future and transferred her knowledge to a younger version
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:28 pm to Ace Midnight
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What so offended at the notion they aren't "cinema"? They're not.
Comes down to what the definition of cinema is correct?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:01 pm to Freauxzen
I just read he was also upset he couldn't get a studio to fund The Irishman for $160 million and had to go to Netflix.
I know inflation is a bitch but if you can’t make a period drama flick for $100 million or less maybe you are part of the problem.
I know inflation is a bitch but if you can’t make a period drama flick for $100 million or less maybe you are part of the problem.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:33 am to SHOtime Tiger
Bumped for Coppola's comments
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:52 am to RLDSC FAN
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Bumped for Coppola's comments
That's an even worse comment
Superheroes are the modern myths, folk tales, etc. Sure, since science is a thing we aren't using myths to transfer information across generations, or to explain the world. But the battle of good vs evil is as old as time itself.
That, and if you can't see humanity in Steve or Tony's arc.....you'd obviously not want to see one.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 11:56 am to scrooster
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hey are fun movies but they are not great cinema
Well said. They are entertainment, which isn't necessarily the same thing as great cinema.
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